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Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Topic started by: AgoristTeen1994 on August 11, 2011, 01:47:08 AM
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Hey everyone I am a 17 year old agorist/anarcho-capitalist who is planning on moving to Wyoming once I turn 18, preferably Crook County...but I do have a couple questions. I've been looking at some properties in Crook county and I was wondering what sort of wildlife is there in that county/region of Wyoming? I know that there are deer, elk, and turkey, and based on what I've read a few mountain lions as well but I'm wondering are there any black bears? Also are there any rattlesnakes? I doubt there are rattlesnakes since it's probably too cold for them but I thought it'd be a good idea to at least ask...and either way it won't affect my decision to move there, I'm just asking so I can be prepared. Also aside from the bears, snakes, and mountain lions I mentioned, are there any problematic species of animals in that area of Wyoming? Thanks and have a great day.
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Welcome! I've never heard of bears here, for whatever that's worth. We do have rattlesnakes... they just tend to move more slowly in cold weather. >:D The most problematic animal so far for me are the damned-deer. (Many of us consider the word "deer" to be incomplete.)
Best way to prepare is to learn to be very aware of your surroundings (a good idea anywhere) and wear the appropriate clothing, boots, etc. Having a serious sidearm and rifle can also be very helpful. Lots of good training and advice available here if you are not already proficient there.
Anyway, I hope you will visit and let us get to know you better! We sure do need liberty minded young people. :) Please plan to come visit Mama in Newcastle.
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Okay thanks for the information. And okay I will make sure to visit when I can. :)
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Well the Black Hills does have a migrant bear population. Black bears, and even moose, will occasionally find themselves in the Black Hills as they move from one place to another. The sightings are pretty rare though. But we also have antelope. They're usually good eating because they spend their entire life seasoning themselves (eating sage).
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Good to hear from you, AgoristTeen. Interesting timing, as we've been having some friendly discussions of anarchy vs minarchy/constitutionalism elsewhere on the boards. You might be interested in the link in my sig, though you may have come across it before.
How long till you think you may be moving up? I'm not there yet myself, but working on it. Mama's right, a visit before moving is a good thing, especially if moving is still a ways off, it's a refreshing and invigorating experience.
seasoning themselves (eating sage)
Haha. Nice of them to do that, save a step in cooking.
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Okay I'll make sure to check out those discussions on anarchy vs. minarchy. And at the very least it'll be a year from now since I won't turn 18 until this upcoming April and I have to finish my last year in my gov't Youth Indoctrination camp...a.k.a. Public High School. So at least a year...but I'll try and visit when I can...probably sometime in the winter to make sure I can handle the cold, which I will probably be able too.
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I live in Crook.
Live in the "Bear Lodge Mountains".
Never seen a black bear, but 2 years ago found droppings from one over a two day period. Never again.
And yes, we have rattlers. I came upon one just 2 weeks ago while attempting to put out a small lightening caused forest fire.
And how would you "prepare" for such critters?
In four years time I've seen two mountain lions, one bobcat, a few skunks, thousands of deer, hundreds of turkeys, squirrels, chipmunks, and thousands of bikers that descend upon this area for a few days during the annual Sturgis biker rally. All are "wild life"!
Mac
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thousands of bikers that descend upon this area for a few days during the annual Sturgis biker rally. All are "wild life"!
Hey! They are not really "wild!" Just sort of uninhibited. I like them! :)
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They are not really "wild!" Just sort of uninhibited. I like them!
Yeah, there's certain aspects of that "uninhibited" that I particularly appreciate.
Wasn't it "Neither Predator Nor Prey" that started out with some of those Sturgis bikers not taking to kindly to a highway check point? Or am I mixing it up with another novel of the same genre?
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Welcome, AgoristTeen,
How did you come to realize you were an Agorist? Do any particular books, websites
or experiences stand out?
Terence
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Welcome, AgoristTeen,
How did you come to realize you were an Agorist? Do any particular books, websites
or experiences stand out?
Terence
I came to realize I was an anarchist during Christmas Break of my Junior year at my local high school, when I did a lot of thinking....so about just after last Christmas. I didn't find a name for the specific type of anarchist I was reading about anarchism on Wikipedia and came across the term for the first time. I read the Wikipedia article on agorism and then I read the book "Agorist Primer" by Samuel Edward Konkin III. Speaking of that, do you know of any good books aside from those by SEK3 about Agorism? I've most of Rothbard's work as well as Lysander Spooner, Benjamin Tucker, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon and Samuel Edward Konkin III...so aside from those authors any suggestions?
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There aren't really any books on agorism, its a niche within a niche within a faction within a minority. "Alongside Night" by J Neil Schulman is a decent novel about agorism amid an economic collapse. Schulman was sort of a co-founder of agorism with SEKIII.
David D Friedman (Milton's son) has written several non-fiction books on anarcho capitalism, but they are somewhat centered on an older "competing governments" model that is not really compatible with agorism/voluntaryism. They still have good analysis and insight.
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Okay thanks for that bit of info...looks like I'll have to write something myself, for other new agorists of the future. :)
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Okay thanks for that bit of info...looks like I'll have to write something myself, for other new agorists of the future. :)
Wonderful! It's so terrific to see young people thinking and creating like this. Gives me goose bumps. :)
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Seconded.
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Well I"m glad I made both of you so happy. :) And I already have a start on what I'll probably end up writing since I had to write a paper for my political science class...I chose to write about the nature of government, i.e....that it is an evil and unnecessary institution and should be abolished. I'll probably use that as the basis for my essay/book on agorism. :)
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Welcome, AgoristTeen,
How did you come to realize you were an Agorist? Do any particular books, websites
or experiences stand out?
Terence
I came to realize I was an anarchist during Christmas Break of my Junior year at my local high school, when I did a lot of thinking....so about just after last Christmas. I didn't find a name for the specific type of anarchist I was reading about anarchism on Wikipedia and came across the term for the first time. I read the Wikipedia article on agorism and then I read the book "Agorist Primer" by Samuel Edward Konkin III. Speaking of that, do you know of any good books aside from those by SEK3 about Agorism? I've most of Rothbard's work as well as Lysander Spooner, Benjamin Tucker, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon and Samuel Edward Konkin III...so aside from those authors any suggestions?
I appreciate your very specific and refreshing answer, AT.
Gosh, at 17 (Pre-internet) I was lucky to have Ayn Rand and Robert Ringer on my parents bookshelf to devour.
In a recent podcast Lew Rockwell brings up a suspicion that Murray Rothbard shared with him: That Libertarians
may be born, not made. Without having to put Agorism in context (Especially here) your path brings
that notion to mind. However, your work in absorbing the authors you cite is laudable and inspiring.
Terence
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I appreciate your very specific and refreshing answer, AT.
Gosh, at 17 (Pre-internet) I was lucky to have Ayn Rand and Robert Ringer on my parents bookshelf to devour.
In a recent podcast Lew Rockwell brings up a suspicion that Murray Rothbard shared with him: That Libertarians
may be born, not made. Without having to put Agorism in context (Especially here) your path brings
that notion to mind. However, your work in absorbing the authors you cite is laudable and inspiring.
Terence
Haha that actually makes sense, thought that might be because of what I know about the Myers-Briggs-Jung Personality type theory. I don't know if you're familiar with it or not, but for the benefit of those who are reading this post that aren't I'll summarize it. Basically their are 4 temperaments with each temperament having 4 personality types. for 16 personality types total. David Keirsey referred to these four temperaments as the Rationals, the Idealists, the Artisians, and the Guardians. As the Myers-Briggs-Jung typology test groups people into the temperaments described by an acronym that represents 4 dichotomies. Those are Extroverted vs. Introverted (E vs. I) Sensing vs. Intuitive (S vs. N) Thinking vs. Feeling. (T vs. F) and Perceiving vs. Judging (P vs. J) I'm not going to go into the details on the differences between each dichotomy all I"m going to say is that two dichotomies combined make the temperament...when you add in the other two that represent the other person's personality then you have their personality type. There are , again the Rationals, or _NT_ the Guardians, or _S_J the Artisians, or _S_P and the Idealists or _NF_ I myself am an INTJ or as David Keirsey called my kind the "Rational Masterminds" Now you may be wondering why this is important...it's quite simple you see Rationals, are the most independent of all of the temperaments with INTJ's and INTP's being the most independent of the Rationals. The Guardians on the other hand, are the least independent, they are your stereotypical conservatives, they are very traditional, to the point of it being, in my opinion, a fault, and they are very submissive to authority. The Artisans and Idealists are in between the Rationals and Guardians in Independence. My point, with this is that a great deal of psychologists who specialize in the Myers-Briggs-Jung typology lean toward the "Nature" side of things in the Nature vs. Nurture debate at least in regards to temperaments. In other words they believe that it is something you are born with. Thus it is quite possible that some people are born libertarians though there are going to be those who aren't and are still libertarians despite not being born that way.