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Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Topic started by: bear0u812 on June 22, 2006, 09:22:23 PM
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to everyone here I give you the utmost respect and praise for what is happening with this movement. My name is Kirbey, I am a Patriot, a Navy Vet, a commercial diver, an electrician, a bartender, a laborer, a student, and a father. I currently reside in the People's Republic of Illinois, but am moving to Ga to be closer to my son. Over the last few weeks I have read Boston's Gun Bible cover to cover, and am still learning from him. I am armed w/ an AR-15, 1911, glock 20, and soon an FAL. I am glad to see so many like minded individuals as myself, an am very excited with all that is going on. The issue that I have is "Where to be?" Georgia as you know is more or less a pro-bill of rights state, and my son is there, he's 5 1/2 and starting school this fall. But with everything going on in this country, it is hard to find like minded people to "watch my back" as it were. I guess I am at a loss here, I want to be there in Wyoming, but my son is in GA. Can anyone offer any suggestions, its a bit lonley out here.
a patriotic vet
Kirbey Hook
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Well, a man has to be a father to his son, no matter what. That's my opinion.
You didn't specify why he is stuck in Georgia. We can't help you out without knowing. On the other hand, it's not our business! :) Some of these things a man just has to work out for himself, or with the help of close friends.
There are freedom movements going on in the South. See this board (http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum//index.php?board=22.0). Maybe you can fit in to one of those? At least until he's grown or the situation changes?
At any rate, welcome to our forum, and I hope you can figure things out.
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Well, Paul you are right. A father should be with his son, but without knowing any other details, wouldn't it be possible to just move with your son to Wyoming? If not, Christian Exodus might suit your needs (don't know if you're a Christian or not). They are similar to other free state movements but are Christians trying to make SC a free state or colony.
On the topic of like-minded people, you might want to check out www.americanminuteman.net and http://www.modernminuteman.net/forums/index.php. They are both militia sites and one should suite your needs. The latter is really new so won't have as much stuff on it, but it is much more a conservative forum. American Minuteman is much older, so has many more members and topics as well as being slightly more "liberal" i.e. libertarian. So, check them out - one should work out for you. I would imagine FSWs would fit in better at AM being that most FSWs are genearlly BTP followers and he wrote Hologram of Liberty which shows our Constitution as being alliance with big government. And MM is of the belief the Constitution is LAW, PERIOD, and any bashing, talking about changing it, etc. are wrong. So... Another good board you might find like-minded people is TCF (The Claire Files) - www.tcftalk.com/clairefiles. It is large and has many different flavors of freedom loving individuals. You should fit in fine there if you love freedom. :D
I don't know if you knew of the above sites but if not, hopefully they will help you find a place of like minded people other than here! And if you agree with the FSW movement but can't pledge to move, you can always fill out the Statement of Intent, leave it unsigned which signs you on as an associate. (Associate means you agree and support FSW but you can't pledge to move to WY in 7 yrs with voting eligibility.)
Just my thoughts. Hope they are of help.
J
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Kirby,
The most important thing you can do right now is be there for your son.? Set an awesome example of a patriotic father so your son will want to follow in 'your footsteps'.? Teach him right from wrong and teach him how to be a responsible citizen.? When the time comes perhaps he will choose to go to WY.? Until that day just be there for him as is dad.? Its no good if you are in WY and he's become a product of society in another state--he just might grow up to be everything you are against.
Can anyone offer any suggestions, its a bit lonley out here
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Visit WY when you can, come to next year's Jamboree, visit the forum to stay abreast of what is going on with the FSW community, get involved with RWVA, go to an Appleseed shoot, put up a thread asking if there are other FSW'ers in the area you are moving to, come to the costume party in December in Casper............................
Jump in an' get to know everyone...............and if the time comes where? find like minded people to "watch my back"
I'm sure we(collective) would be there for you.
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Howdy Kirbey,
Your son, as all children, needs the constancy and dependability that you can provide, wherever you are. Always be true to your word with him. Always be true to your self. Be the very best and authentic you that you can be - that's the very best you can do for him.
Children are like sponges - they absorb the essence of everything going on around them. Their BS meters are on full-time. They may not always know intellectually what you're talking about, while at the same time they do intuit whether you're being genuine. Talk less, say more. Your son knows.
There are lots of good, patriotic Americans throughout this country, and many of them are in the Southeast. Make the circumstances that you want in your life. Make the circumstances that you want in your son's life. Be the man, be the father, be the Citizen that you want your son to know.
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To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty, and to find the best in others; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived; this is to have succeeded. --Ralph Waldo Emerson
You're on the right track, looking in the right places for help. Keep up the good work.
Lex
<edited on request by Paul>
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The most important thing you can do right now is be there for your son. Set an awesome example of a patriotic father so your son will want to follow in 'your footsteps'. Teach him right from wrong and teach him how to be a responsible citizen. When the time comes perhaps he will choose to go to WY. Until that day just be there for him as is dad. Its no good if you are in WY and he's become a product of society in another state--he just might grow up to be everything you are against.
Very well said, Brandy. I agree with this. Something FSW people understand that it never seemed like FSP people really got is that you can carve out your own little niche of freedom wherever you are - maybe all the laws are against you, but you can still be free in spirit and philosophy. At least that's how freedom-loving people out west are... Hence why we're not going to a tiny little state that borders Taxachusetts! There are many layers to freedom. Some of us are just lucky enough to be able to pack it up and head for WY right now, or soon - others have to wait a bit longer.
If there's any way you and your son can both make for WY, then do it! If not, maybe bring him along when you come out to visit for the Jamboree or other events. Instill in him a basic sense of right and wrong, good old fashioned manhood, and what liberty is all about. And as he gets older, make sure he gets to check out plenty of brochures for the University of Wyoming! ;D
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Wow, one day andthere are responses. I am deeply moved by the level of feeling in everyone's reply, to the point of tearing up. My son's mother has full custody of him and is residing in GA, due to her family living there. Hence the inability to pack him up and move. Boy I am really opening up here, She is trying to get a divorce from her current husband, because he is a physically and mentally abusive to her and my son. He drives trucks for Prime inc. now, and fortunately is gone most of the time. Believe me when I say I want to be there for my son. I am already planning on teaching him to shoot a .22 and in a few years pass one on to him. I have had my eyes opened by Boston, and would like to be considored a follower, even if it means just an associate? 2-3 weeks from today I will be reunited w/ my son and I will try to be the father that I lacked. I appreciate the links to the other organizations, it will be a start, but hopefully in the near future, I would like to be by everyone's side, w/ my son w/ me, bill of rights in one hand and my FAL in the other. Thank you to everyone, I can't say it enough, thanks.
Kirbey C Hook
Father and patriot
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Kirbey, Howdy and welcome, Thanks for opening up it helps. I do have a question for you if you care to open up a bit more. :)
If your sons mother gets her divorce, is there a possibility you two wil reunite? And if so maybe then you three, as a family, could slowly make your way to Wyoming?
You sound like a good man. Hang in there. Time may be all you and your son need. Miles
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It is unknown if my son's mother and I are going to get back together if she gets a divorce. What is the real kicker is my current girlfriend lives downtown Chicago, going to school for her masters in education, and has just been introduced to firearms, (she loves my 1911). She might move to GA when she graduates, but for her WY is out of the question, she just does not like the country, she's a city girl. I know deep down its not going to work between us, and All I care about is my son. If his mom and I do get back together, there is the possibility of the move. First things first, I have to get my FAL then get on down to GA, so its back to one day at a time. Thanks again to everyone here, for everything.
Kirbey C. Hook
Father and Patriot
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Well, sorry about your current situation and all the troubles. Hope they all get worked out. I know you said you already know that it won't work out with your current girlfriend and you, but if it did, or you met another city girl, there are fairly large cities (compared to the country) in Wyoming. :o
Check out Casper, Cheyenne, Sheridan, Buffalo, Gillette, etc.
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Some good news everyone, I have set a date to leave the communist state of Illinois. I will be GA bound on the 14th of July. I have already been talking to my son and he is beyond excited, ;D. His mom is excited also, she knows about my armory and she is very excited to learn how to shoot. Now the hard part cometh, trying to convince my girlfriend to move to a more firearm friendly state, like GA, if not convince the Ex- to move to WY.
On a side note, my ex watched a program on the history channel last night, I have it recorded so I haven't seen it yet, but it is a bit disturbing. Aparently Yellostone national park is a super volcano, that is starting to build up pressure again. Now I'm not saying that it is a factor on whether or not I come out there,( if it does blow, the enitre world is screwed), but it is something to think about.
almost forgot, my sister has decided to purchace my Glock 20 from me, and will be getting into reloading also, so my FAL purchace will be happening this weekend ;D. now to get to my grandparents in TN to get it zeroed. Once again thanks to everyone here, you all have given me enough encouragement to get things rolling, and if anyone happens to pass thru GA, give me a shout and I'll buy the Waffle House after a few boxes of ammo at the range.
God bless everyone here,
Kirbey C. Hook
Father and patriot
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OH NO! THE YELLOWSTONE CAULDERA THING AGAIN !!! :o ::) SURE HOPE THE DAMNED PLACE DOESN"T BLOW WHILE I'M THERE NEXT MONTH! BOY, THAT SURE WOULD SCREW UP A PERFECTLY GOOD VISIT.
WHAT ROT..... Pure sensationalism!
Yep it's true, it's gonna blow, in fact it's eminent. Yesseree, probably gonna blow within the next million years or so.?
Heck, I'm more afraid of Islamic Terrorists bombing my trailer park next week than I am the Yellowstone Caldera "blowing". ::)
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Dangit Pete I need to get by butt to Douglas one of these days - you are a hoot! ;D
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Hi Kirbey,
Father and Patriot--you've got your sequence of priorities straight!
Welcome here, and I'm glad that my BGB has been such a help.
Wyoming or not, stay in touch with us as our friend.
And y'all come out to Jamboree 2007!
Boston
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Getting your science from the Discovery Channel or your history from the History Channel are never good ideas. There will always be incredible errors, unbelievable fallacies, etc. Anyway,...
I'm not sure I would call the Christian Exodus a freedom group. But that's just me. You do have the Mises Institute nearby in Auburn, Alabama, and they are absolutely awesome. Check out their web site at http://www.mises.org and you can learn about some of the great things they're doing. If you want to be involved in the freedom/libertarian movement, they are definitely some of the all-star players. You and your son could go to the Mises University or something even -- a week-long gathering with courses, seminars, etc. on free-market economics.
Make it a great day!
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John, thank you for the information, it is something I definately will be looking into. And to Boston, just knowing that you have read this thread is a real morale booster for me. I thouroly (? on spelling), support the ideals, methods, and people with this community. The majority of my family think I am absolutly nuts for my new found beliefs, except for my sister. She has even told her hubby, Who is in Iraq right now, she wants an armory, w/ a minimum of 1000 rnds per weapon, and reloading equipment. She is purchaseing my Glock 20 from me this weekend, and as a welcom home gift for her husband she is getting him a Springfield Armory SOCOM II. :( I am jelous. Sorry I digress, my stepfather is a conservative, north shore of Chicago, white collar type, who does not like firearms, and thinks the goverment cannot be changed. Boston he is one of those who will lie down and roll over if the USG says so. And the reaction when my mom bought a Glock 19C. Priceless. I do appologize, I can be a bit of a rambler, but this is the most comfortable forum I have been in. If I can get access to a printer this weekend I am going to send in the Statement of intent,w/ the money, unfortunately I will not be able to sign it, for I do not know when I can move there. But I would like to know how to further the cause in GA when I get down there, does anyone have any Ideas? Once again thank you to everyone.
A Brother in Arms
Kirbey C Hook
Father and Patriot
p.s. I will be trying to get out to the Jamboree next year, and my son will be in tow.
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Well, its now down to the final week til I move to GA, and honestly I don't know wether to be happy or sad. Happy because I'm getting to be w/ my son, sad because I am not heading out to WY. I recieved "Molon Labe!" friday afternoon, and finished it in about 12 hours. I could not put it down. If for no other reason than my son, I would be there in a heartbeat. I definately see many parallels in our society today as in the book. I know it is fiction, but WOW, the possibilites alone. anyways, I finally took possetion of my FAL today, havent had time to put a few rounds through it, but I do have ammo for it. For me A firearm w/o ammo is as usless as a condom w/ a hole in it. Wasn't able to get the money in the mail this weekend, son's mother needed money for gas, job interview. Even though I may be in GA soon, and not a member, anything I can help with, for anyone, All you need to do is ask, and I'll be there.
Stuck in GA
Kirbey C Hook
Father and Patriot
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Bless you, son. I hope you can figure out a way to bring at least your son with you out here soon. I wish I could give you some good advice about helping change things in GA, but I'm afraid I have no idea that is even possible. I hope, for your sakes, I'm wrong.
God bless and keep you all, and I'll be praying that your son's mother can join us too. MamaLiberty
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I guess I am at a loss here, I want to be there in Wyoming, but my son is in GA. Can anyone offer any suggestions, its a bit lonley out here.
Wow Kirbey.
I am in Georgia too...up north, by Lake Lanier.
I am here because my daughter's grandmother is close by and it's a great place to finish my flight training and take my first baby steps toward an aviation career I started a few years ago. After reading Molon Labe, I too really wanted to relocate to WY and participate in freedom. It'll be a few years before I have the experience to submit resumes for teh kinds of jobs I want out there...we'll see how it works out.
In teh meantime, we just found out we're pregnant...with twins. That's another life detail that may curtail our move. We're going to need a LOT of help and don't really have anyone out in WY.
Again though, we'll see how it works out.
Where in Ga are you? I moved here from Hawaii and it's been like being rescued from a communist people's state! I carry a handgun every day and nobody says anything about it...I even know other folks who do the same thing! People here are largely a little too republican for their own good...but many of them are beginning to see the light.
This Fair Tax thing is getting a LOT of momentum here in Georgia.
Lets get together.
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John,
I will be in the gwinnett county area in 7 days, around Lilburn, heck we're practicly neighbors. After I get down there, and see my boy, I will be going to the range for some much needed stress relief. Let me know if you are intrested in tagging along, I have a couple of friends that want to learn to shoot, and its always more fun when there is a group. talk to you soon.
Kirbey C Hook
Father and Patriot
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Kirby, good to read of your recent encouraging news.
I hope that you enjoy your FAL!
Mol?n Lab?! is indeed fiction; it's up to us to make it happen.
See you in Wyoming,
Boston
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Greetings one and all. I have made it to GA, found work, a place to live right now, and now going to try to fight for custody for my son. A lot has happened in the last month, for one my ex took my son on the road with her and her abusive soon-to-be ex-husband. My boy was supposed to start school 1 1/2 weeks ago, Kindergarden mind you but he does need a bit of structure in his life. I can't say his education will be the greatest, but that is why I am planning to supplement what the government shools lack. Anyways that's another course of topic.
The work I found is at a marina on Lake Lanier, a bit of everything, yard and boat maintenance, even my commercial diving cert will be put to use for a few upcoming projects. there are several ranges here in the area, both indoor and out, but I still havent had a chance to shoot my FAL, lack of funding for ammo. but soon.
To John Corry, I'm at starboard cove marina in flowery branch, stop on by if you ever get a chance.
once again to all the freedom loving patriots out there, if anyone passes thru GA, look me up, you have a place here, till I move out to WY that is.
Keep the Faith everyone.
Kirbey C. Hook
Father and Patriot
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Kirby,
Glad to hear that you are somewhat settled.? Hope that you can get custody of your son--sounds like that would be in his best interests.
Keeping the faith and praying for those not here yet. ~W~
Brandy
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Greetings one and all from the peach state!!!!! I know it's been a while scince bieng here, but I have unlimited access to a computer for a bit. On the freedom front, I have made a couple of friends and know some more people down here who are now intrested in firearms and RKBA, and hopefully will be checking out the organization. On the employment front, I might be able to get a diving job down in New Orleans 30 on/30 off, and with the pay involvedbe able to finally start getting an RV then some property here in GA and mabey in WY or AR. My best friend is in AR and is of the same freedom oriented mindset as we are, and so is the rest of his family. At least Arkansas is headed in the right direction towards WY. On the personal side, my son is finally in school and back in town. Unfortunately he had fallen out of the top bunk of the truck and broke his collarbone. The Ex didn't take him to the Dr. till 4-5 days later. Department of Family And Childrens Services is involved fortunately, and attorneys have been called. Hopefully w/in the next year he'll be with me. Anyways if any associate/friend/member happens to be in GA, drop a line, and lets get out to the range.
Friends till the end,
Kirbey C. Hook
Father and Patriot
p.s. Boston, if you read this, just out of curiosity, did you ever get a response to your "Letter to a Columbine Student?"
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Kirby, I hope things are going well for you . So is your diving job out on those oil rigs ? I am an operator and had thought about working that 30 on 30 off shift out on those rigs once.
Have you told your friend in AR about us? Maybe he or others in his family would like to join in on our conversations. It's always nice to have more voices in this choir .
Hang in there with your son I am praying for you. Miles
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Kirby, the "Letter" was an open one not directly
sent to her by me, but I've heard that somebody
photocopied those pages for her.
Will report any reply I ever receive.
Meanwhile, I hope and your boy can RV out to Wyoming
sometime, especially for our Jamboree.
Boston
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to all my freedom loving friends and Patriots,
I am unhappy to announce that I will be leaving Georgia to head back to the communist state of Illinois. My fathers health has been waning, and I had moved too early to come down here, struggling financially that is. However the good news is, I am trying to get some dive work, especially in the international market, and the plan is to semi retire in about 3-4 years. My girlfriend is supportive w/ the carrer thing, but is a bit wary on moving out of state, (Georgia is fine, but I have to get her to see Wyoming soon). In addition, I should have enough money saved up to get custody of my son, so there would be at least 2 new residents in WY, mabey 3 if the girlfriend/soon-to-be fiance comes along. My armory will be expanding while in IL, My girlfriend was a victim of a hot home invasion, and is now thinking of a 12 gauge. Fortunately a shotgun IS Legal in city of Chicago. gotta hate those gungrabbing, bleeding heart, pansy-arsed, room temerature IQ, FUBAR'd liberals.
anyways gotta run for now
Keep the faith, and your aim steady,
Kirbey C Hook
Father and Patriot
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Kirbey, I'm so sorry your father isn't doing well. God bless you for going to him when he needs you.
Glad to hear you may be able to get custody of your son. I'll keep you and your family in my prayers.
We're here for you, whenever you get here!
MamaLiberty
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Kirbey
Would your ex consider at least temporary custody of your son so she can straighten out her marriage issues?
I commend you for trying to be a good dad. Sounds like he is going to need one. Please stay involved and keep fighting for your son.
It's heartbreaking to read about him being physically abused - I truly don't know what I would be capable of if someone abused my little boy (or daughter).
Keep the faith, it's worth it for your boy!
God bless
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When it rains it pours. As an inmate here in the peoples republik of Illinois, life has had many turns the last couple of months. Along w/ my father not doing too well, found out last week my stepmom was diagnosed w/ cancer in the lymph nodes, just after having a masectomy right before chistmas. As far as my son is concerned, I do have steady work now and am sending the child support, (still no court order yet), and my girlfriend/fiancee's father is loaning me money to pay the retainer for an attorney to fight for custody. And a bit more good news, My brother-in-law is home from Iraq for 2 weeks, pluss 8 weeks left when he returns tto the sandbox. For christmas, my sister gave him a new SA SOCOM II. She said he didn't put down for a 1/2 hour, ;D. And he and I are making plans to be at the jamboree this year, take a week off drive out there, and have some fun. Just have to get the missus permission first. ;D. other than that, just trying to get out to the range as much as possible before Mayor Daley goes full commie on us here in Chicago.
Keepin the powder dry and the knife sharp,
Kirbey
Father and Patriot
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Kirbey...
I am very sorry to hear of the many challenges you and your family/friends are facing. Please know that you are in many prayers. God dearly loves and cares about each of you.
You would enjoy the JAM...lots of fellowship and support.
Let me know if I may be of any help, comfort or encouragement to you and your family,
Gerri
Jesus said, "In this world you will have trouble.
But take heart! I have overcome the world." John 16:33 NIV
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