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Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Topic started by: az_coyote on April 20, 2008, 10:46:51 AM
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Altough I used the search function and browsed through many topics, I have been unable to find any place which lists how many people have joined the FSW. I guess I could count the number of personal declarations posted in the thread people use to sign up, but I wonder if that would give an accurate count. Does anyone know how many people have joined so far? Thanks!
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Only Boston knows for sure. Not everyone who is a member is active on the forum, and not everyone wants their status known, so we don't ever publish that kind of information.
Guess that's just one of the ways this bunch is peculiar. <G>
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I believe that Boston is the only one who can change things here.
He is the owner.
I am inclined to believe that he values his own and others privacy far to much to simply take a majority vote.
(I could be wrong)
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How many people would it take to change things?
Change what?
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We have "hundreds of pledged FSW Members, dozens of whom
have already moved to Wyoming." You can quote me on that. :)
Sorry not to be more exact, but this will have to do.
~W~
Boston
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Sorry, I misunderstood that question, bigtime.
My impression is that the big selling point to Wyoming is that it doesn't need changing to appeal to liberty oriented people.
More over any suggestion of a political takeover is unwelcome and unneighborly.
And if a pot of coffee is not enough to make a person feel welcome, then how 'bout coffee and a muffin?
This is my opinion only.
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Political change isn't one of the goals of FSW. The goal for most of us is to live as free as possible here and now. Some individuals are working on the political angle, most are not.
Personally, having spent many years with the LP attempting political "change" in the past, I see it as worse than pointless, often counterproductive. I will never again participate in the political process.
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Don't forget the locals that signed up too.
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Political change isn't one of the goals of FSW. The goal for most of us is to live as free as possible here and now. Some individuals are working on the political angle, most are not.
I hear what you're saying MamaLiberty, and I know there are other ways besides the political process to have an impact. But I have to confess that it's hard for me to get excited about moving to WY and just 'living as free as possible here and now". I sincerely hope you have managed to find ways to do that. But I don't think I can be satisfied unless I have some hope that by moving to WY, (along with many others), my family can look forward to someday enjoying much, much more freedom than is possible here and now.
In the FSW FAQ it states, "Wyoming is currently on a trend of more government control, more tax-funded programs, more dependence by some citizens, less freedom generally. It is no different than any other state in this respect, except that it seems to be moving a bit slower than most that way."
I don't want WY to move a bit slower than most states in the direction of bigger government. I want to reverse the process and shrink government! If states are like cars on a train and some cars on the liberty train are going to go over the cliff a little bit later than the ones in the lead, I might be content to just stay in the state I'm in. But the idea of lots of libertarians moving to a low population state in order to re-direct it on the path of freedom that it was previously on, (or most residents had always wanted it to be on), has given me more hope than any idea in a long time.
I wanted to move to NH, at least as a part-time resident. But it became more and more clear that with as much time as I spend outside the U.S. as it is, and the distance from AZ to NH, it was just not practical. But I'm hoping I could back my way into WY and be of much more helpful than I could be in NH because it's just a few days drive from where I live now. I would, of course, like to change my leagal residence to WY and register to vote. When in WY, (perhaps 3 months a year for the first year and going up from there), I would not have to work any other job except trying to promote the ideas of limited (very limited) government.
Does anyone have any advice for me? I'm not saying all FSW members have the same goals, but are my aspirations compatible with FSW in general?
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Does anyone have any advice for me? I'm not saying all FSW members have the same goals, but are my aspirations compatible with FSW in general?
That's just the point. :) There is no one way to reach our many varied goals. FSW gives us a network to find others with similar goals, mutual support/ good neighbors, and mutual encouragement.
Personally, I am convinced that the "train wreck" is coming fast and nothing can stop it. I just hope I can survive, and believe that it's much more possible here in NE Wyoming than anywhere else. Only time will tell if that is true. In the meantime, I'm as free as possible here and that means a great deal to me. :)
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I don't want WY to move a bit slower than most states in the direction of bigger government. I want to reverse the process and shrink government!
If you haven't read Boston's Bullet Proof Privacy and Surviving Y2k, (no reallly, it is VERY good) along with a lot of research of your own, you really should. Steps you can do NOW to make yourself more free will do you a lot of good, more than moving to any state. If you don't hold up the tyrant, then the tyrant will fall. Sadly, I don't think there is any place in the world you can find where gains in freedom overpower the limitations to it.
I am sure the background noise I just heard here with booming rap crap isn't something I would find often in Wyoming. :D
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Newcastle is still Paradise compared to PA.
I have to say that of all the places I've looked at in WY on the internet, New Castle ranks pretty high for lots of reasons, (besides just the mere fact that MamaLiberty lives there :)
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You know, I'm one of those types who doesn't do anything quickly or easily and without gathering a LOT of intelligence first, but that's why I like you folks. Boston's remarks especially.
Speaking of which. Any good reading you can suggest on Common Law business and Common Law partnerships? I'm curious if I'm headed in the "right" direction in my research. So far I'm fairly stuck. :) Any help is appreciated!
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You know, I'm one of those types who doesn't do anything quickly or easily and without gathering a LOT of intelligence first, but that's why I like you folks. Boston's remarks especially.
Speaking of which. Any good reading you can suggest on Common Law business and Common Law partnerships? I'm curious if I'm headed in the "right" direction in my research. So far I'm fairly stuck. :) Any help is appreciated!
Howdy elk, I'm not sure exactly how extensive the details are you are researching , however, you may want to look at http://commonlaw.findlaw.com
Hope it helps, Harry
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elk, another you can try- it has quite a few related links as well is http://www.commonlawreview.com
Harry
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Hard to know exactly how to answer this, Jim. I make a large distinction between "politics" and ELECTORAL politics. I've been involved in both for many years, and finally came to the conclusion that the electoral kind was NOT congruent with my life philosophy in any way. I do not, thereby, remove myself from political discussion or considerations. I just don't vote for people for any reason. I've tried to make that plain other places.
Here in Weston/ Newcastle I've made a pretty good footprint just by openly being a sovereign individual, telling it like it is whenever I get a chance, being a good neighbor, openly carrying my firearm, teaching others self defense and so forth.
I've thought about going to city council meetings, etc. but I don't see any benefit to it. That is exactly the wrong setting to attempt any "education" and if I opened my mouth at all it would most likely be counterproductive in the extreme. Most people in local government do not want to hear the real message of freedom, and there is no time to explore or discuss things in that setting if one were present.
Those who know me, know what I think. Seems a better plan to get to know more people in a neighborly fashion and I'm working hard at that.
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We have "hundreds of pledged FSW Members, dozens of whom
have already moved to Wyoming." You can quote me on that. :)
Sorry not to be more exact, but this will have to do.
~W~
Boston
It could be my cyberignorance, but how does one become a FSW member? I haven't come across the conditions, etc.
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The process for becoming an FSW Member is also even easier, as it's now done
totally online through our forum in this thread.
HOW TO BECOME AN FSW MEMBER:
1) Register on the forum, post at least 10 times, then get on this thread http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum//index.php?topic=5283.msg38992#msg38992 and compose a new message.
2) In the message body, copy/paste the below FSW Statement of Intent text:
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I solemnly pledge that I am able and willing to join the Free State Wyoming and its effort to populate Wyoming with individuals of demonstrably ethical character who ? forsaking fraud, theft and aggression ? desire to peaceably co-exist as reasonable neighbors for the goals of political liberty, free trade, and voluntary cooperation.
By hereby joining the Free State Wyoming, I either:
declare that I have already established bona fide voting residency in Wyoming,
or solemnly pledge my best effort to legally establish such no later than seven years from today.
3) Below that type in:
So pledged on (date) in (state).
You are not required to post your name or any other personal information.
(In fact, you may deem it prudent keeping such information private, and that's fine.)
Your "I'm a new FSWer!" post made, admin staff will upgrade your forum status to
either FSW Member In Wyoming or FSW Member, Wyoming Bound as appropriate.
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The process for becoming an FSW Member is also even easier, as it's now done
totally online through our forum in this thread.
HOW TO BECOME AN FSW MEMBER:
1) Register on the forum, post at least 10 times, then get on this thread http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum//index.php?topic=5283.msg38992#msg38992 and compose a new message.
2) In the message body, copy/paste the below FSW Statement of Intent text:
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I solemnly pledge that I am able and willing to join the Free State Wyoming and its effort to populate Wyoming with individuals of demonstrably ethical character who ? forsaking fraud, theft and aggression ? desire to peaceably co-exist as reasonable neighbors for the goals of political liberty, free trade, and voluntary cooperation.
By hereby joining the Free State Wyoming, I either:
declare that I have already established bona fide voting residency in Wyoming,
or solemnly pledge my best effort to legally establish such no later than seven years from today.
3) Below that type in:
So pledged on (date) in (state).
You are not required to post your name or any other personal information.
(In fact, you may deem it prudent keeping such information private, and that's fine.)
Your "I'm a new FSWer!" post made, admin staff will upgrade your forum status to
either FSW Member In Wyoming or FSW Member, Wyoming Bound as appropriate.
I think this was my first post, so I guess I'll just wait and watch.
For what it's worth, I'm had domicile in Wyoming since 1994 by vehicle registration.
Voter registration is pending the ability to do so without a street address, which my vehicular home can't provide. Until there's someone besides republicrats and demopublicans to vote for, registration is academic.