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Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Topic started by: peopleforget on August 20, 2008, 11:50:47 AM
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This is my first post, anywhere, ever.
Hello from Kentucky! My wife and I are planning on moving to Wyoming in about 1.5 years or so, give or take a month or two. While Kentucky is a decent place to live with fair amounts of freedom, the more I learn the more I realize I don't belong here. My wife agrees and we both want to make a new start in a place where being free and being an American actually means something. If everything goes well, we will both graduate from college in 1.5 years. I will have a General Studies B.A. degree with the focus being in Justice and Safety. She will have an Art Teaching B.A. degree. I have every intention of joining FSW and I agree with its goals and methods. Make sure you keep a seat open for a new art teacher and a farm grown police/security/safety/service oriented/etc. rifleman and defender of the Constitution.
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You'll both be more than welcome here peopleforget. Have you read "You and the Police"?
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Howdy peopleforget, we are honored that you chose us to begin your computer forum adventure, and to become a neighbor in a year or two. ;D. Be sure to get your wife on here too if she has any questions for the ladies of FSW !
Have you ever been to Wyoming ? Let us know if we can answer any questions.
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You'll both be more than welcome here peopleforget. Have you read "You and the Police"?
Not yet, but I am going to order it in a couple days. I'm just about finished with "The Freedom Outlaw's Handbook." If it is as good as I've heard, and even half as good as the 3 other books by BTP that I've read lately, I will find it time well spent. There is a certain irony in reading "You and the Police" in today's world while considering a career as a peace officer. The major hang-up I have on that career is that I would actually obey The Constitution and, more importantly, it's implied meanings and protections. Where I’m from, that would be heresy. I would much rather do something else than become another tool of oppression that was ‘just following orders.’
I currently work at a PD as a non-sworn officer and work hand in hand with sworn officers on a daily basis. What I have seen firsthand has shaped my opinion and opened my eyes more than anything. While some officers genuinely want to help and leave everyone alone, most want to see what technicality can be applied to the maximum effect against someone who failed to register their vehicle or something else equally trivial. That is not serving the public; that is serving a tyrannical monstrosity who is oppressing the public. But I digress. I want to serve the people not the laws. I’m exploring other career avenues at this time unless someone in Wyoming is looking for someone like me. We’ll see what the future holds!
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Howdy peopleforget, we are honored that you chose us to begin your computer forum adventure, and to become a neighbor in a year or two. ;D. Be sure to get your wife on here too if she has any questions for the ladies of FSW !
Have you ever been to Wyoming ? Let us know if we can answer any questions.
I will be sure to pass your welcome on to my lovely wife! I haven't been to Wyoming yet unfortunately, though we are planning a trip soon. We should have the money to stay a while next summer. (Hopefully sooner!) I have been to Denver and to a couple of places near there in the mountains and I absolutely loved it...minus the Denver part...that was hell! My dad has done quite a bit of traveling and he told me that Wyoming has always stood out in his mind as one of his favorites. If it is as everyone describes it, I will love it too! When we arrive, we’ll have to have to break out the armory and invite everyone over!
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Welcome! There are many jobs in Wyoming that center on serving people. I hope you can explore many of them before you make a final career choice. Hope to see you when you can come to visit Wyoming. :)
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PeopleForget,
Yes, welcome to your new home on the web and to your new home in the future, Wyoming.
Regards, Danl ~W~
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This is my first post, anywhere, ever. ... .
I have every intention of joining FSW and I agree with its goals and methods. Make sure you keep a seat open for a new art teacher and a farm grown police/security/safety/service oriented/etc. rifleman and defender of the Constitution.
I am EXTREMELY gratified both that you chose to break the ice with this first post of yours here at our happy [but sometimes busy!] little home, and that we'll be gaining a couple of good new neighbors.
Welcome, my friend. See you in Wyoming.
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When we move, I will cook everyone a nice good ol' Kentucky meal, from my culture to yours! Lord help me if EVERYONE shows up!
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Well maybe you can join us at the next get together . We are always looking for a camp cook ! ;)
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Maybe some simmering ham hocks and navy beans? My mouth is watering. Pleasant conversation and a beer while it simmers? Count me in.
Yes, you'll get plenty of help. There are many stirrers ::) and taste testers among us. ;D
Seriously, you'll have plenty of neighborly help (and contributions of sides & beverages) available if you need it. ;)
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Not to discourage you but I really don't think the LE mindset is that different. A bit better, but I can't imagine real respect for the Constitution coming from most law officers even here in WY.
If I conceal carried a firearm without a permit, I expect you would be arrested here same as KY. Etc Etc.
I do say we need good cops who are libertarian minded and the more the better.
We just moved here recently from michigan. We made a good choice. Everything about WY is better except for the lack of trees.
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Sounds delicious! If y'all come, I will cook a big ol' pot of beans with ham hocks, country ham chunks, bacon grease (only the good stuff right!?) and a few secret family ingredients. My wife will throw in some other goodies like corn bread from scratch and we’ll all eat well that night!
My wife and I are Civil War re-enactors and I am a camp co-cook in the informal sense. I'll say this, there is nothing like a huge cast iron pot full of beans that have been cooking for 12+ hours over a camp fire!
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Not to discourage you but I really don't think the LE mindset is that different. A bit better, but I can't imagine real respect for the Constitution coming from most law officers even here in WY.
If I conceal carried a firearm without a permit, I expect you would be arrested here same as KY. Etc Etc.
I do say we need good cops who are libertarian minded and the more the better.
We just moved here recently from michigan. We made a good choice. Everything about WY is better except for the lack of trees.
I've been thinking about this sort of thing for about 2 years now...in order to make a real difference, you would have to have a Chief of police (of some type) who was actually willing to uphold The Constitution and true American principles. It would (at first and barring a fluke) almost have to be a sheriff. Most sheriffs’ (at least in KY) are the beat all and end all of county authority. A focused effort on part of the people (like FSW!) could put such a person in office at the county level. City chiefs are usually appointed and always have the city councils breathing down their necks...we all know what that usually means.
A good Sheriff would be able to take office, clean house, and help create a small pocket of real America within a given county. Once people see the difference, such a change could spread, especially in today’s increasingly police state Amerika. I would work under such a person as a peace officer when the time comes. Until someone good has the courage, character, and conviction to stand up for our rights…I would rather do something else. I wouldn’t violate a citizens’ rights just because someone ordered me to do so.
I believe I will miss trees as well...but the trade off is worth it. If I can find a good piece of hilly property with water on it, I will be a happy man!!!
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Why does everyone keep saying there are no trees here? I've got trees... lots of us have trees... and you can always plant more! No, there are not a million square miles of them in every direction like Alaska, but we do have them. Some areas have more than others. Don't move to the places that don't have them. Sheech.
(http://thepriceofliberty.org/images/FSW/wyoming/posterrich.jpg)
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We just moved here recently from michigan. We made a good choice. Everything about WY is better except for the lack of trees.
Well, maybe that's why they call the Thunder Basin National Grassland that instead of the Thunder Basin National Forest....
But like ML says, there are some of those grean leafy things that aren't rocks- I forget what they're called, but they're not rocks- in Weston County, and quite a few in some spots over toward the SDAK state line.
This is the US 16 looking from the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad overpass in Newcastle. As you can see, there's some of them green leafy thingies all over the place.
Trees? Could that be it? I thought trees what you put in your shoes when you've got your boots on....
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Why does everyone keep saying there are no trees here? I've got trees... lots of us have trees... and you can always plant more! No, there are not a million square miles of them in every direction like Alaska, but we do have them. Some areas have more than others. Don't move to the places that don't have them. Sheech.
(http://thepriceofliberty.org/images/FSW/wyoming/posterrich.jpg)
Problem is most of the jobs are where there is a lack of trees.
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Problem is most of the jobs are where there is a lack of trees.
How do you know that?
Those trees are quite near me. There are hundreds of jobs going unfilled here. YOUR particular choice might not be well represented, but it is inaccurate to say there are none because your first choice was not available here.
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Why does everyone keep saying there are no trees here? I've got trees... lots of us have trees... and you can always plant more! No, there are not a million square miles of them in every direction like Alaska, but we do have them. Some areas have more than others. Don't move to the places that don't have them. Sheech.
*Laugh* I will plant a forest! I'm moving to Wyoming for Wyoming...even if there are 7 trees in the state! (I'm just kidding!)
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*Laugh* I will plant a forest! I'm moving to Wyoming for Wyoming...even if there are 7 trees in the state! (I'm just kidding!)
Great!! If I'm close enough, I'll help you plant them. I've planted about 350 trees so far. They are small, but growing! :)
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Problem is most of the jobs are where there is a lack of trees.
How do you know that?
Those trees are quite near me. There are hundreds of jobs going unfilled here. YOUR particular choice might not be well represented, but it is inaccurate to say there are none because your first choice was not available here.
Good thing I am open to any of dozens of jobs if someone will hire me! *hint* *hint* Even if there was a lack of trees (which I know there is not **look at Google Earth, run an image search, etc.**) let's place a couple of items on the ol' scale of justice and truth. You know, the one that the blindfolded Lady of Justice used before she was replaced with a computer operated by the Lady of Bureaucracy and Political Whim, Inc. Anyways, let’s weigh greater personal freedom and REAL community against trees and other mere climatic conditions…….hmmmm…..looks like the scale says the former is greater than the latter. That’s why I’m moving! Besides, I love the cold, the wind, rugged terrain, hills/mountains, and isolation when desired. Parts of Wyoming seem to fit that bill. Around here, most trees are seen as mere dollar signs anymore…and you can’t hardly practice with your implements and tools of freedom insurance without someone complaining about the noise or ‘the danger.’ (Not that that has ever stopped me...that's when I break out the Mosin-Nagant at midnight..."how do ya like that, neighbors!?")
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*Laugh* I will plant a forest! I'm moving to Wyoming for Wyoming...even if there are 7 trees in the state! (I'm just kidding!)
Great!! If I'm close enough, I'll help you plant them. I've planted about 350 trees so far. They are small, but growing! :)
I'll take you up on that provided you accept the same help in return! What kinds of trees grow well where you're at? I have plenty of experience with trees here in KY...but the climate in Wyoming is...slightly different...
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Great!! If I'm close enough, I'll help you plant them. I've planted about 350 trees so far. They are small, but growing! :)
I'll take you up on that provided you accept the same help in return! What kinds of trees grow well where you're at? I have plenty of experience with trees here in KY...but the climate in Wyoming is...slightly different...
Wonderful! I'd love to have you for a neighbor. The gun range is only about 1/2 mile away and we can shoot most anything, any time. Nobody to snoop or complain!
So far I've planted ponderosa pines, pinion pine, Rocky Mountain junipers, sumac, bur oak and siberian pea trees. All are available from the county ag service here cheap. I also have some golden current and bush cherries. The junipers are looking the best, but most of them are still alive. The deer, rabbits and drying wind are their greatest enemies. I need to seriously mulch everything this fall.
This fall I will also plant seeds for Osage Orange tree/shrubs. They turn out to be terrific windbreak trees that the deer simply can't eat! They have nasty thorns!
And I'm always glad of some help. I always get in over my head with my projects. LOL
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Problem is most of the jobs are where there is a lack of trees.
How do you know that?
Those trees are quite near me. There are hundreds of jobs going unfilled here. YOUR particular choice might not be well represented, but it is inaccurate to say there are none because your first choice was not available here.
Where did I say there were no jobs in NE Wyoming ? I said there was more jobs elsewhere.
It is fairly common knowledge that the areas with the most employment opportunities center around Gillette, Casper, and Rock Springs. All these areas are fairly barren.
Overall I am happy with life in WY. I wish there were more trees in the area I am at, but the benefits gaining in freedom and employment were well worth it.
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We have problems with deer here as well. We took some chicken wire and stretched it over a frame made of bracing wire. It makes a shell (or tube) over the trees that prevents the deer from getting to them. We did that until the trees were big enough to fend for themselves and we have a 100% survival rate ever since! As for the rabbits, we kept a cat and dog around for them...they solved that problem! Our cat even tried to stalk one of the deer and managed to psych it out enough to move on!!! FYI Osage Orange is one of the best bow making woods if you're into that sort of thing...
Does spruce grow well there? I am a particular fan of the Norwegan spruce and the blue spruce.
If we move in, that gun range will never know what hit it!!! We share as well so there will be plenty to go around!
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If we move in, that gun range will never know what hit it!!! We share as well so there will be plenty to go around!
There's a retired railroader out my way who can fill you in on activities of the handgun Bullseye and IHMSA
shooting around the Newcastle Area and the rest of the state and region. And if you need more than the 300 yards at the Newcastle range, I've got about 600 yards available out at my place, 'bout 8 miles south of town, though we probably better wait until my surveyor gets done out there. That old boy has been known to shoot bear and deer that try grazing on his TC laser transit....
You a reloader, by chance?
Weston County Sportsmen's Club, Divide Avenue, Newcastle, WY 82701.
Outdoor Pistol, Indoor Pistol, Outdoor Rifle, Indoor Rifle, Pistol Silhouette, Trap, Sporting Clays
Rifle Range - Up to 300 yards
12 Covered Bench Rests
Trap Range - 3 Stations
Sheltered Pistol Range - Will be available soon
Annual Gun Show
Cowboy Shoot - Buzzard Ridge Regulators - SASS Affiliated
For More Information Bob or Catherine Bradley 307 746-4769
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There's a retired railroader out my way who can fill you in on activities of the handgun Bullseye and IHMSA
shooting around the Newcastle Area and the rest of the state and region. And if you need more than the 300 yards at the Newcastle range, I've got about 600 yards available out at my place, 'bout 8 miles south of town, though we probably better wait until my surveyor gets done out there. That old boy has been known to shoot bear and deer that try grazing on his TC laser transit....
You a reloader, by chance?
Weston County Sportsmen's Club, Divide Avenue, Newcastle, WY 82701.
Outdoor Pistol, Indoor Pistol, Outdoor Rifle, Indoor Rifle, Pistol Silhouette, Trap, Sporting Clays
Rifle Range - Up to 300 yards
12 Covered Bench Rests
Trap Range - 3 Stations
Sheltered Pistol Range - Will be available soon
Annual Gun Show
Cowboy Shoot - Buzzard Ridge Regulators - SASS Affiliated
For More Information Bob or Catherine Bradley 307 746-4769
Thank you for the information! When I move, I would like to meet the retired railroader. I am planning to move to somewhere in the Crook, Weston, or Campbell county area so I shouldn't be too far away. I am not a reloader at this time, but I am planning on learning the skill. I have been keeping most of my good brass so I should have some materials to start with. I'll probably start when I move. Right now we're saving up money for the move and another M14/FAL at an upcoming gun show...while attending college full time and working part time!
My dad and I have built a small range out on the farm...right now we're able to shoot out to about 100 yards or so. We have other places to go for longer ranges, but that is the 'official spot.' My dad was an expert marksman in the Navy back in the 70's. That man can shoot! I was fortunate to have such a good teacher while growing up. I shoot quite a bit of black powder as well...but that stuff is getting hard to find. Good thing the feds are regulating it so much...terrorists everywhere are perpetrating attacks with bomb vests filled with FFF black powder! Oh wait....they're not.