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Title: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: OxEMoron on February 16, 2009, 08:43:52 PM
I hope my posting is in keeping with the etiquette and manners of this site as I have never posted on a forum before

Let me introduce myself (first name only)

I am a Mother of 4 and wife to a disabled decorated Vet.  We and the other four families of retired military, are 'family' and are looking for a free, safe, & family oriented place to live in case TSHTF (which seems to be imminent given our economy)

We live in CO & ID presently but wish to find property near like minded, conservative/libertarian folk.

My husband and one of the other husbands (Ret'd Col.) will be coming to WY next week looking at a property near Burlington to see what that area is like and to begin to look for, what we are sure most other folks are looking for:

good neighbors who will help us defend our liberty, safety and family's well being
good land to grow veggies, crops, forage
good water

about us: we garden, have livestock, hunt, fish, shoot well, homeschool, one of our families has a special needs son (Down Syndrome), and are all 'preppers' - we are well trained medically (Triage Nurse, EMT) and bring a broad range of skills that a community would find beneficial

I could go on, but will keep it brief and will gladly respond to any of your suggestions, questions or inquiries

anything you all could point us to, give us insight on, etc would be most appreciated

God Bless

Beth
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: OxEMoron on February 16, 2009, 09:29:59 PM
my husband just read my post and asked that I clarify:

we are not a commune !  (he said i made it sound like we wear flowers in our hair or that TV show "Big Love" :>) )

my saying we are family is more my way of saying we are very close and have supported one another's families during tough times - we know we can trust the others

my family wishes to move to WY, 2 others want to be able to relocate in case TSHTF ... 1 wishes to move after he finishes his time in Afghanistan

anyway, hope this clarifies!

best

B


Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: Big Ugly on February 16, 2009, 11:26:44 PM
Hi, Beth,
From whence in ID and what route are the boys taking to Burlington.
I'm ex-Navy, living in Lander currently. If the boys are coming through this area and would have time for a coffee - could do.

Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: OxEMoron on February 16, 2009, 11:42:38 PM
thanks 'Big Ugly' - they'll be coming up from Colorado this trip ... those in ID would be flying in out of Twin Falls in the future

but, knowing our guys, if there is free coffee they'll find it! :>)

they would like come up 25 from CO but mght also head over to Craig CO & north from there on 13(?)

most likely travel day up is Monday 23 -

and they wanted to extend thier thanks by asking 'what kind of donuts"?

best

Beth


Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: MamaLiberty on February 17, 2009, 06:38:20 AM
Welcome Beth and families. We are very big on extended families here! :) If any of you come through the NE corner of the state, please drop in and visit us here too. We'd love to meet you. And I do hope you can all come to our campout in June. See the get together board elsewhere here.

I'm a retired RN, and always glad to welcome more medical people. We may need each other badly one day.
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: biathlon on February 17, 2009, 09:36:21 AM
Welcome oxemoron. As Mama said we are already an "extended" family here at FSW If you plan to come through Laramie look me up. I and several others here are former/current military and thoroughly understand the extended family concept. I ets'd in 81 and still do not relate real well  to civilians. I'm an electrician and know the ropes well here. Lemme know what I can do fer ya.
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: Paul Bonneau on February 17, 2009, 10:31:43 AM
Welcome aboard Beth.

I looked at property near Burlington, came very close to buying (158 acres, good senior water rights & all in irrigation, for just $1000/acre in 2006 or so). I think it is a nice area, but a bit too plain to interest yuppies - which can be a good thing. FYI the Mormon community is pretty strong there. That does not bother me, I have Mormon friends, but I know it's a factor for some folks. One time a very strange and unusual thing happened to me when driving through Burlington: a teenager, walking down the street, waved at me.  :)

Oh, we don't mind if you have flowers in your hair, either, heh.
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: wyomiles on February 17, 2009, 01:36:01 PM
Howdy Beth and your extended family! Hope each of you take some time to join in the conversations here. If you all can make it please schedule the third weekend in June to come to the get together.
PS, I grow flowers as well as veggies. :)
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: Big Ugly on February 17, 2009, 03:34:30 PM
DONUTS??????

WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT DONUTS!!!!!!

Or, did they mean that they would be buying whatever kind of donuts I'd like?????

It sounds like they might not be coming through the Lander area, but if they decide to detour, let me know.
If they come up 13 from Craig, tell them to try to plan lunch in Baggs, WY. El Rio (Rt side of the road, mid-town) has the best Chiles Rellenos I have ever had in my entire life - and I was raised in the southwest - they have REAL queso blanco in them!!!!
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: MamaLiberty on February 17, 2009, 04:36:58 PM
Chiles Rellenos - with REAL queso blanco?

Oh, how I miss that. About the only thing I miss from California is good Mexican food... I make my own, but can't usually buy the stuff here. sigh.... Now you went and made me HUNGRY! :)
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: HardwareHank on February 17, 2009, 05:17:13 PM
"we are well trained medically (Triage Nurse, EMT) and bring a broad range of skills that a community would find beneficial.."

In Burlington? Somewhere between tedium and apathy.

A school, grain elevator, one bar, a part-time Co-Op gas station and what passes for a grocery store.

But if you want to talk with a decent fellow whose family has lived in Burlington for generations... let me know.

Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: OxEMoron on February 17, 2009, 06:42:20 PM
WOW! thanks all

I am literally amazed at your kind responses and interest

I'll make sure the boys bring plenty of donuts and will look at the map to see how they'd travel best to stop & meet those of you who extended the welcome

the property in Burlington has so much to offer:  senior water rights, 1/2 mile of the greybull, 5 wells, huge barn, good fencing, 2300 sq-ft home,  etc for $365k - is that a good deal in WY now or are there other areas you all are aware of that we should investigate as well

and, yes, we are well trained medically & doing more - we asked a fellow from 'western rifle shooters assoc' to come down & teach 'grid down medical' course near where we live now - if any of you are interested please come down & stay with us if you wish to attend the course

more skills we'll bring to WY:  2 pilots with 11,000 hrs a piece; 2 of the boys served in 'non-uniformed' services (they are the ones with the most metal in them); 1 of the boys did secret satellite stuff ... none of them seem to know how to vacuum, change diapers or clean bathrooms however :>)

super on the table in 5 so have to run

please keep these posts coming - I love it!  feel like we 'belong' in WY already!

and do please give us best advice on areas of WY to look at

best to you all

Beth

ps - we're not going to live the 'flowers in our hair' thing down are we?
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: judithevans on February 18, 2009, 12:26:00 AM
Welcome!!  This is sewing dove up in riverton--close to Lander.  The area up in the north basin is awful close to Billings--only 1 hr or so--and very wide open for travelers.  I of course am partial to this wind river area, thinking 1) its going to much more isolated when all h--l breaks loose, and 2) much easier to cut off contact with the suburban folk, and 3)  has been kind of a banana belt this winter.  But might try checking with realtys around the state.  We are also military people, DH, BIL X2 all are vets, and we have a GREAT VA clinic here.  We have gotten the best care imaginable from them.  Remember that Wy has a $200 property tax discount for all vets each yr.  Many small towns here that have good schools, real old timey types.  And along with Big Ugly would love to offer hospitality if you are around.  I'm a hospice nurse and DH is disabled.  Have fun shopping around our state!!
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: OxEMoron on February 18, 2009, 11:14:00 AM
thanks Judith

I so appreciate the hospitality

hopefully we won't (my husband) need the VA clinic for sometime as we just finished 3 years of him in & out of surgerys. Mayo Clinic (only place that could fix certain things) etc - he ain't 'new' but he is still above ground (his favorite saying) :>)

all our best to all you on this forum

Beth
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: Paul Bonneau on February 18, 2009, 07:34:43 PM
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In Burlington? Somewhere between tedium and apathy.

Well, yeah. If you want excitement, you have to go to Basin.  ;)

When people say they are interested in Burlington, I assume they mean a farm somewhere near Burlington. Get into Acme Mapper (http://mapper.acme.com/), enter "Burlington, Wyoming" and take a look. It is fun to check out properties this way, if you can locate them.

Seems like $365k is a good deal (depending on how much of the land is irrigated), esp if more than one family would be located there (farms really need more than one family, if you can find someone you get along with). You'd actually be pretty close to me. Keep in mind the major crops in Wyoming are kinda on the low value end, like hay and beets. But soon we won't have an economy at all, so that won't matter, eh? The value of a farm will be for survival.

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The area up in the north basin is awful close to Billings--only 1 hr or so--and very wide open for travelers.  I of course am partial to this wind river area, thinking 1) its going to much more isolated when all h--l breaks loose, and 2) much easier to cut off contact with the suburban folk, and 3)  has been kind of a banana belt this winter.

Well, when the zombies attack, Burlington is pretty far off the beaten path (anything in Wyoming is, actually). Billings ain't that close, and anyway they are Montanans. It's not like being near Philadelphia. BTW Burlington altitude is 4400 feet, not so high (which is good if you are trying to grow something).
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: OxEMoron on February 18, 2009, 07:47:18 PM
thanks Paul!

I'll use that ACME mapper tonight!  & yes, it is a farm/ranch near Burlington

it does have a lot of irrigation and water rights back to 1880 - 20 acres are already in Hay producing aprox. 800 sm bales a year

And I agree - Hay will be better than an American Express card soon :>)

finally ,,, we WANT TO BE off the beaten path as this is in case TSHTF place for us 4 families

I hope we get to be 'neighbors' what with your kindness

all our best!

Beth
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: Danl on March 10, 2009, 12:46:46 PM
OxEmoron,

Just kind of wondering how the trip went.  I have never actually visited Burlington.  I have been by on the 'big' highway quite a few times but never got off the main drag.  Too big a hurry......

Regards, Danl ~W~
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: OxEMoron on March 10, 2009, 07:17:19 PM
Burlington is/was a very clean nice agricultural town

the small ranch is ideal as a preparedness retreat and we would have loved to gone forward with it save the other families getting )as mentioned before) cold feet

the property does need a lot of cleaning but the infrastructure is all there

alas ....

oh, and it was very cool to have 1/2 mile of the Greybull river flowing through it :>)

best

D & Beth
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: Ray on March 12, 2009, 10:32:35 AM
Welcome!!  This is sewing dove up in riverton--close to Lander.  The area up in the north basin is awful close to Billings--only 1 hr or so--and very wide open for travelers.  I of course am partial to this wind river area, thinking 1) its going to much more isolated when all h--l breaks loose, and 2) much easier to cut off contact with the suburban folk, and 3)  has been kind of a banana belt this winter.  But might try checking with realtys around the state.  We are also military people, DH, BIL X2 all are vets, and we have a GREAT VA clinic here.  We have gotten the best care imaginable from them.  Remember that Wy has a $200 property tax discount for all vets each yr.  Many small towns here that have good schools, real old timey types.  And along with Big Ugly would love to offer hospitality if you are around.  I'm a hospice nurse and DH is disabled.  Have fun shopping around our state!!

The farthermost northern end is an hour away form Billings and Big Horn county is huge. Burlington is one of those places you would never find unless you were looking for it (or possibly made a wrong turn at Emblem). Not a bad place at all.

As far trouble from Billings, etc---I wouldn't worry about that one bit.

Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: Boston on March 12, 2009, 12:12:48 PM
Welcome Beth and Family!
I hope that Wyoming works out for you all.
Thanks for being on our forum.
 ~W~
Boston
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: Brandy on March 12, 2009, 01:36:12 PM
Hello Beth,

I don't post as often as I did prior to the move to WY.  We(me, husband, son, daughter, daughter, daughter, daughter, daugther, horse, horse, dog, dog, cat and cat ;D ;D ;D) are located centrally in the state.  Our home is always welcome to new FSW'ers for a home cooked meal.  I am also medically trained(RN) and homeschool.  I wish you great success and hope that all can relocate.  As we sprinkle the state with like minded we help pave the way for others.

Sincerely,

Brandy  ~W~
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: OxEMoron on March 12, 2009, 04:02:25 PM
thanks all!  we appreciate ya'lls words of encouragement Brandy & Boston

we'll be in Newcastle around 4 pm tomorrow eveving staying at the fountain inn - if anyone wants to stop by for a coke or coffee please leave a message at the desk

saturday we'll be out looking at property and Sunday we hope to meet as many of you as possible for brunch at 10 am at the Old Mill

again, thanks for making us feel so at home

best

Beth & family
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: Korak on March 13, 2009, 06:15:46 PM
I am a local to the area near Burlington and have several friends and relatives in the area.  Burlington is a nice place to live.  It is the best of country living.  If you want to garden, raise crops, raise animals, and have some of the best weather in Wyoming then this is the place.  The Big Horn Basin is one of the best places for agriculture in Wyoming.  Also this area has probably the least amount of wind anywhere in Wyoming, which is saying a lot.  The closer you get to Cody the worse the wind.  My picks for living would also be Worland, Tensleep, or any of the small towns on the east side of the Bighorn basin.
The only downside to living in Burlington is shopping.  The people that live there travel to Powell, Greybull, or Cody for the groceries and to Billings for the big stuff.  Billings is nice to have close by for that reason, not to mention they have no sales tax.  Also there is a VA clinic in Powell.  If you have any more questions about the area, PM me.
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: OxEMoron on March 23, 2009, 09:41:07 PM
Hello all;

Beth here - sorry for the delay getting back to all of you but we came home to find that a promised back-pay disability check did not come and in fact the Gov't pretty much as told us it'd be a year to collect on it

argh!

anyway, we have called in the lawyers and are fighting it hard

all this goes to say that we will be delayed in buying in WY ... but delayed NOT derailed!

we're already hard at work on plan B and welcome all of your insights and continued encouragements

God Bless

Beth & Family

ps - all prayers appreciated for Ian as he has not gotten better and goes to a GI specialist this week
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: jubal on March 24, 2009, 02:44:53 PM


   Thats a damned BUMMER


   Sorry I missedyou when you were here...............jubal
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: archy on April 11, 2009, 02:13:01 PM

all this goes to say that we will be delayed in buying in WY ... but delayed NOT derailed!

we're already hard at work on plan B and welcome all of your insights and continued encouragements


Not a problem, just keep in touch, and let us all know if there's anything that can be done to help y'all out on the receiving end.

I'm assuming you're still looking at the Newcastle area, which will also be the site of our Summer festivities. that might make a good substitute for the earlier plans squelched by your delay.
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: Nathan.Hale on April 12, 2009, 07:42:53 PM
Hi Beth and Family,

I really enjoyed reading your posts and the answers from FSW folks. I wish you and your friends the best as you make plans to move to Wyoming.

- NH

 :)
Title: Re: Four Retired Military families seek advice on moving to WY
Post by: NYrefugee on April 25, 2009, 04:21:46 PM
OxEMoron- Reading your posts and empathizing. Hope things work out. We are looking for property too, and from your posts Greybull /Burlington area sounds worth a look. Hope to meet you at the June campout. Dave and Kathy.