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Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Topic started by: lost_in_samoa on April 13, 2009, 03:57:46 PM
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Hello,
First off let me say that I am delighted to be here. Thanks for letting me in.
A little about myself.
Currently I am employed on a small south pacific island. I run a research facility for a consortium of universities. Yes I am telling the truth and please don't hold it against me. I'm not a troll coming to spy on y'all, nor am I a believer in the direction of this nation since 1913. For the most part I am just a high end janitor.
I became aware of FSW when my brother gave me an autographed copy of Molon Labe. Loved the book. I've been trying to register here for some time but the admins have all pacific IP's banned so I had to get creative with proxy's.
I come from a farming and ranching background. Ozarks in Missouri and southern AZ down near Nogales. Moved into electronics in the military, then into the internet biz, and most recently into facilities management of high end facilities.
Right now the wife and I are seriously thinking about relocating to Wy. Browsing real estated sites and working through the details. We are close to retirement age, and are seeking a small acreage site with running water to build a peaceful place on. Preferably a place close to the mountains. Give me something to rest my eyeballs on.
Watch your topknot.
Sincerely
LIS
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Hey, Samoa, welcome to the board. What kind of research is going on down there?
What part of "near Nogales" were you in? If it was out toward Patagonia and Sonoita, I was just down in your old stompin grounds a few weeks ago. You know its a regular Napa Valley down there now?
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Welcome, Samoa! Just let me know how I can help you, and please visit when you can. Will you be able to come to the campout in June?
Not much "running water" here in Wyoming, at least not after the spring thaw... but I'm sure you'll find a place to settle here if you want one. Can't wait to meet you both. :)
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Welcome, Samoa! Just let me know how I can help you, and please visit when you can. Will you be able to come to the campout in June?
Not much "running water" here in Wyoming, at least not after the spring thaw... but I'm sure you'll find a place to settle here if you want one. Can't wait to meet you both. :)
Thank you very much for the welcome.
Unfortunately it costs several thousands of dollars to fly from Samoa to the Mainland. I would not be able to get there in June. My consortium does fly me back to "the world" in the middle of May every year. So if there is a good chance that I will be scrounging around in that time frame next year.
Once again thank you.
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Hey, Samoa, welcome to the board. What kind of research is going on down there?
What part of "near Nogales" were you in? If it was out toward Patagonia and Sonoita, I was just down in your old stompin grounds a few weeks ago. You know its a regular Napa Valley down there now?
I did not know that. I've been to the Napa Valley. Used to go to school in Vallejo back in the 80's. Before it became a dump.
I used to live all over down in southern Az. Bisbee, Elfrida, Sierra Vista, Tombstone. I remember going to El Dorado days in Tombstone. As a kid we used to jump the adobe fence between the municipal park and the OK corral gunfight mock up.
I've been away for 25+ years now. I hear that southern Az is all grown up and full of McMansions and strip malls. Correction .... forclosed McMansions and empty strip malls from what my brother tells me.
As I said I am in effect a high end janitor. I operate and repair a large number of mass spec's and chromatographs and the facilities that support them for a grouping of universities. They study the interaction between large air masses and the ocean. I only do data and sample collections. I kinda fell into the job because I have alot of shipboard electronics experience. That and I prefer to live way ... way .... WAY out in the boonies.
Thank you for your welcome
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Howdy lost in samoa, and welcome here. A good place to look for land on line is at www.wyodex.com , search under realty.
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Howdy lost in samoa, and welcome here. A good place to look for land on line is at www.wyodex.com , search under realty.
Thank ya kindly
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I did not know that. I've been to the Napa Valley. Used to go to school in Vallejo back in the 80's. Before it became a dump.
I used to live all over down in southern Az. Bisbee, Elfrida, Sierra Vista, Tombstone. I remember going to El Dorado days in Tombstone. As a kid we used to jump the adobe fence between the municipal park and the OK corral gunfight mock up.
I've been away for 25+ years now. I hear that southern Az is all grown up and full of McMansions and strip malls. Correction .... forclosed McMansions and empty strip malls from what my brother tells me.
As I said I am in effect a high end janitor. I operate and repair a large number of mass spec's and chromatographs and the facilities that support them for a grouping of universities. They study the interaction between large air masses and the ocean. I only do data and sample collections. I kinda fell into the job because I have alot of shipboard electronics experience. That and I prefer to live way ... way .... WAY out in the boonies.
Thank you for your welcome
Well, I exaggerate in comparing it to Napa Valley. There's, I think, 13 producing wineries now, and a few more getting started. You go down to Sonoita now and everybody's hawking the wine tour maps, and there's a precious little bakery where you can buy organic bran muffins and vegan cheese danishes. The wine is pretty good, though, and its still a nice area for a day trip from Tucson.
Not so much with the strip malls, except Sierra Vista, that place is pure Cali suburbia. Lots of new cookie-cutter developments up here, though the new construction has stopped cold. Tucson is still growing very fast, so theres a housing glut, but doesn't seem as bad as it seems to be elsewhere. The main construction boom here is in red-light and speed cameras. There are new ones popping up every day, it seems.
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Well, I exaggerate in comparing it to Napa Valley. There's, I think, 13 producing wineries now, and a few more getting started. You go down to Sonoita now and everybody's hawking the wine tour maps, and there's a precious little bakery where you can buy organic bran muffins and vegan cheese danishes. The wine is pretty good, though, and its still a nice area for a day trip from Tucson.
Not so much with the strip malls, except Sierra Vista, that place is pure Cali suburbia. Lots of new cookie-cutter developments up here, though the new construction has stopped cold. Tucson is still growing very fast, so theres a housing glut, but doesn't seem as bad as it seems to be elsewhere. The main construction boom here is in red-light and speed cameras. There are new ones popping up every day, it seems.
I really need to get back down in there and see what the place is like. Last time I was there "Miracle Mile" next to Nicksville was all the rage.
It's been a while.
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Ufa, Kefe!
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Ufa, Kefe!
Do you know what your saying to me?
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U**, K***!
Do you know what your saying to me?
OK, I had to google this, since you didn't say. I couldn't find an exact definition, but I got the gist of it. Rest assured, that is not how newcomers are usually greeted here. :D
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OK, I had to google this, since you didn't say. I couldn't find an exact definition, but I got the gist of it. Rest assured, that is not how newcomers are usually greeted here. :D
Thank you kylben for your kind words. I appreciate it, I really do.
Ya know ..... I would rather not be banned from this forum for engaging in a pissing contest with
a founding member.
I've got shit that I need to accomplish in a short time frame. This forum can
help me with that. Hell .... it already has.
On the other hand I believe that a man should be held accountable for his actions.
To that end I want to give biathalon a day in court.
Hey Fuzznuts.......
You got a problem with me?
Or do you normally talk out of your a$$?
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Uh, yeah, hey B. do you know what this means? I looked it up on a translation site, and it's not very nice. I have to assume at this point that you've heard Somoans say it to each other the same way that blacks call each other nigger.
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I don't know what that means and don't want to... but I'm astonished and horrified that any of us would insult anyone like this, even unintentionally! Come on, biathlon, what gives? This just isn't YOU.
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Apologies submitted. I used to fish with a lot of the Samoa guys and drink way to much too. Probably 1978 or '76. They were a lot of fun to party with. Lava rock roasts, fish I had never seen before or since, that was always a slap on the back greeting between us and trading followed. We made our own arbellettes then and always had to scrounge the parts. Swim fins and goggles or masks were worth their weight in moonrock. That's how I remember the place and no offense was intended. So, I'll try again, welcome and hope to see ya here in Wyoming. We're having some genuine Wy. weather here now, a little different than the trade winds.
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WHEW! Thank goodness. :)
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I honestly thought that was a friendly Samoan greeting :o Being a dumb hillbilly from Wyoming my first attempt at fishing there was to grab a pole and reel, put some bait on the hook, throw it in the water and wait. I remember catching an octopus the first day and a really large weird looking crab the next. About the third day or so some of the local folks that usually showed up with the whole family approached me and asked"What you catch?" I showed them and they all laughed hard and about the fourth day one of the guys that looked about my age(20ish)told me to come on in the water with them. They had several old inner tubes with netting tied to the bottom and some very long homemade spearguns they called "arbellettes". Swimming with them was actually a lot easier than I had thought it would be and I learned later this was because they knew how to use the currents in the lagoon to get out to the outer reef with little effort. After a brief warning about the little fish that lived there that you did NOT want to step on and some other warnings about some of the cone shells you did NOT want to pick up, they showed me how the reef was built and how to look down the face into the open ocean to see some REALLY LARGE fish! It seemed the smaller the fish, the longer its name was and the bigger the fish, the shorter its name was. They speared several, caught some lobster and back to the beach we all went. As the group left one of the teenagers looked at me, held up a hand and said "Ufaa". I returned the "greeting" or "goodby" not really knowing what else to say and the entire group broke up laughing like all h@**. The next day the same group showed up and one of the others yelled "Kefe". I smiled and returned "Kefe". Same response, they all laughed hard and that day one of the older members came over, put his arm around my shoulders, smiled and waved me toward the group now getting into the water. This was an honor as far as I was concerned and I spent the next several days, fishing, learning how to catch lobster, drinking beer, eating wayyy too much and really enjoying these people. The younger ones always smiled and offered the same "greeting" or "goodby"(the afore mentioned questionable Samoan words)and to this day I believed this was a perfectly acceptable Samoan hello. This appears to be a bad joke the locals were playing on the dumb hillbilly 30 years ago. Oh well, live and learn. I certainly did not intend any offense. ;D
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I honestly thought that was a friendly Samoan greeting :o
Malo Saefua Biathlon,
Apology heartily accepted. :) Fa'af Tai Tele Lava (honorific thank you very much)
To clear up some old confusion,
Talofa lava (warm hello)
Malo lava (familiar warm helo, Like "hey good friend")
Malo Saefua (honorific to familiar greeting, reserved for someone of higher status)
Fa Saefua (honorific goodbye or good sailing, reserved for someone of higher status)
I hoped that this was just a case of confusion.
Samoan's can have a pretty cruel sense of humor when it comes to Palagi's, (white people).
I was afraid that I might not be welcome because I work for the scientific community overseas.
I frequent a fair amount of liberty and freedom type boards and on some of those I've been shunned. People automatically ass-U-me that if your working with university scientists on atmospheric research that you are a "global warming" fanatic, and socialist without peer.
Truth is I loath the popularized "climate change" and "global warming" agenda. It has derailed the real study of what's going on our planet. Hi-jacked it into a farce of what it really needs to be. That is a dangerous damn thing. Any farmer worth his salt will tell you that you have to pay attention to your fields and study your crops.
Sorry , I digress ........ (/RANT OFF) ......
Thank you all very much.
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"Cruel sense of humor"? That's an understatement! After a couple weeks when I really started to figure out what was going on in the ocean and had used the base shop tools to construct my own arbellette, I actually managed to spear a really big fish that all the Samoan folks said was really good to eat! Being real proud of myself I declined the offer to have them cook it for me so I could take my trophy back to show off to my base buddies. The result was my LT asking if I would introduce him to my new friends? "Yes Sir!" We drove out to the other side of the island where I had been fishing and partying in the LTs jeep and upon arrival were told"You park over there under that tree in the shade". We did and the laughing and snikering began. I had NO CLUE what sort of cruel joke they were playing on us. They had parked us under an enormous breadfruit tree! For those of you not familiar with these trees, imagine a water balloon the size of a basketball filled with elmers glue! Anyway, we all proceeded to the beach, got in and began to swim out to the outer reef. The LT really thought this was a lot of fun. We had no idea why all the Samoans were laughing so hard. After an hour or so and some real good luck fishing the group told us it was time to return to the beach. I still had no idea why they began to laugh so hard when we got to shore till I saw the LTs jeep! Several large very ripe breadfruit had scored direct hits! His jeep was a mess! The Samoans were rolling in the sand because they were laughing so hard. I couldn't help myself and began laughing at the LTs expense too! Fortunatly for him he saw the humor in his situation and started laughing like h&## too. Yes, the Samoans do have a sick sense of humor! ;D
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Ah, biathlon, you are a trusting soul. After all those dirty tricks you never even wondered about that friendly greeting? LOL
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Nope ;D When we all settled down and the LT and I got in the jeep to leave all the younger Samoans raised their hands and telled "Ufaa!" We smiled and returned the "Ufaa!" At least they kept me from the dangerous things on the reef. I do remember one time out there one of the younger kids began yelling and waving franticly at me to get out onto the reef from where I was swimming. They were all looking very serious when I got over there and informed me that they had seen a very large tiger shark! This is the only shark they seemed to be afraid of. :o
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"Cruel sense of humor"? That's an understatement!
That sounds about right. The locals advised me to park my truck under a coconut full of copra. I did at first, but after a bit of thought I moved it to an open space.
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to this day I believed this was a perfectly acceptable Samoan hello. This appears to be a bad joke the locals were playing on the dumb hillbilly 30 years ago.
In a very famous case, the anthropologist Margaret Mead was also apparently taken advantage of by Samoan girls:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_Age_in_Samoa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_Age_in_Samoa)
So don't feel like you've been singled out, Norm. :)
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I don't know what it means, but from past experience I don't think Biathlon would intend to offend anyone, especially wihtout cause. Let's not let this go where it isn't intended.
BTW, Samoa, welcome aboard. We welcome Liberty lovers here!
Regards, Danl ~W~
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Well, phooey! I see I responded on page one without seeing page 2 and Norm's response. Well anyway I was right. He would never behave that way. Thanks B for making me right! ;D
Regards, Danl ~W~