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Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Topic started by: BlackBart on April 30, 2009, 09:16:34 PM
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Hello everyone, I have discovered your site tonight and I am feeling better about being an american. I live in minnesota and have been feeling oppressed for years. I would like to live where I can have my fire-arm handy and not feel like a criminal. Im tired of getting dirty looks from people in my neighborhood because I have a truck with a winch on it. I dont want an electric car. I dont want a GPS meter in my vehicle to track my mileage so I can pay more of my hard earned money to fund this welfare state. I like tobacco. I like Waylon Jennings. I like fishing. I like my Colt govt model. And mostly I require freedom. I will be researching this site more as I am itching to leave this state A.S.A.P. Thank you for your help in advance. Burton.
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Hey BlackBart, I too am living in oppressive Minnesota. Welcome to a place where you can meet other freedom loving people.
Todd
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We have winter out here too. ;D Do you ski?
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I did once and pulled my groin badly :o. I stay away from high impact sports- too many injuries over the years. I don't mind cold weather though.
I would consider moving to Alaska but it is so far away I would probly never come back.
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Boy Howdy.
Sounds like you are a Natural Born Wyomingite.
Truck w/winch, check.
Counrty music, check.
No love for taxes, check.
Enjoys tobacco, check.
Fishing, freeddom, check.
Colt govt model, Double Check!!
Open carry with out the need to ask anyones permission. Come see the paradise.
What are you waiting for? There is a get together in June!
http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=7363.0
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Come on out in June. We're all getting getting together in northeast Wyoming. Camp out, maybe do some shootin. There ar more 4X4 rigs per square inch than any place I know of, winchs too.
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You will see some response from Rich once in a while. I think he is a refugee from MN. I am presently in occupied territory deep in the heart of Illinoistan. Hope to escape to Wyoming sooner rather than later.
And a hearty welcome to the board!
Regards, Danl ~W~
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Welcome, another Minnesotan here.
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Welcome indeed! If I could escape from California, you can escape from anywhere that doesn't have razor wire. (Yet)
Come see beautiful Wyoming and meet the folks. :) I much prefer my XD .45, but I'm not prejudiced. You can carry anything you like when you come to my house! LOL
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Thanks to all for the warm welcome. I have never seen such a polite forum and am glad to know sensible people exist out there. Where can I git some more details on the meeting in June? Also just curious.....do they sell handgun ammo out there? Im not trying to be funny but we cant barely get it here.
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What's your calibre?
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The June camp out info is at this link: http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?board=58.0
I have not bought any handgun ammo in quite a while, but I know some folks have gotten some recently on line. The prices are insane, of course... but it is available as long as your state doesn't require micro-stamping or some such nonsense.
Best bet is to get set up to reload.
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What's your calibre?
45acp 60 bucks a box here....... found two boxes at gander mtn last week. shelves have been empty for two months or so. Where is all the ammo?
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45acp 60 bucks a box here....... found two boxes at gander mtn last week. shelves have been empty for two months or so. Where is all the ammo?
Good heavens, how many in a box? The last .45ACP (FMJ) I bought was about 40 cents a round. But that was before the panic.
Prices seem to be stable now, and may well come down again - at least for a while. Look on line, but don't expect any bargains right now.
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50 in a box.Hollow point. Seems expensive but priceless if ever needed. Unable to find magazines for my colt 1911 until last weekend I found some generic ones at gander mtn. No holsters available that I can find. Anyway..... I just got this colt govt model and have not had time to shoot it yet.
I been workin on fixing my house up so I can sell it a.s.a.p. and move out of chinapolis Mn. This state is full of beauty and 10,000 lakes. Unfortunately it is full of politicians who are very generous with other peoples money. It is also the state with at least 10,000 laws and regulations. It makes me sad because I was born here but I have been living a false life here in the city. Nature here I come.
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Bart, try e-bay for holsters.
I just recently got two of them for my 1911 A1 dbl stack.
And a double mag pouch.
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Bart,
Welcome!
Drop me a PM with your address and I'll send you a 1911 holster.
Reload. You're a mechanic so you'll love it! And, at 17-30 cents/round, you cant beat it. $60/box is criminal. And, if you check around, you can find complete setups in estate sales and through gun clubs...cost you between $100-300 to get started, then its a lifetime of fun and savings.
Best of luck,
redtailhawk
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As ML said, your best bet is to reload your own. Way much cheaper and more accurate. Of course there are several places to get ammo on line. You have a place right there in St. Paul called Sportsmans Guide. I have ordered much ammo from them. Google Midway USA, Graf, Lock stock and barrel, Midsouth shooters supply. Can't remember the name of the town but you have a Cabalo's south on The Interstate from you. Go to gun shows too. There are more sources of ammo than just a few places you trade regularly. If you come to the jam in June stop in Rapid City, there is a Cabalo's there too, and two Scheels stores, and there is a great store downtown.
I quit doing gun shows in Mn. to damned many draconian gun laws and Mineapolis is an expensive town to stay in. I did not see any reason it was special for the prices they charge for motel rooms, plus the parking charges they get down town. It is a ZOO.
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Howdy Bart ! and welcome.
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45acp 60 bucks a box here
Ouch! :o
Problem with reloading is that some components (e.g. primers) are almost as hard to find as regular ammo is. But it's still worth getting into, at least to increase your options. Also, if you are stuck with $60/box ammo, it kinda puts the crimp on practice, eh?
Even if you don't get into reloading right away, it still doesn't hurt to start accumulating components right now. Excellent trade goods, if nothing else.
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Hey Blackbart, how do you feel about FMJ? I can do better than $60.00 a box of 50 at Walmart. I also have a BassProShops and Cabela's locally. I will go to them on Tuesday(working this weekend) and see what they are getting. Don't forget .22LR for barter and practice. I would recomend everyone clean out the local Walmart in your area, with cash, for the ban coming soon.
Bigduane
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I Dont know the ups or downs of FMJ....but I got scolded at the range for the copper ones? I got a police man who's car I fix and I have been giving him our used lead tire weights- Probly about 50 pounds by now!
I should start keeping some of them for myself but not all because he trades me this home brewed dark beer in these giant bottles. Him and his wife are nice people and both have conceal and carry permits. The wife used the permit as a second form of ID at target and the cashier panicked.......
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welcome blackbart!
definitely reload! and yeah, components are tougher to come by. primers seem to be the long pole in the tent. i have cast some zinc bullets, which turned out fairly well. less dense and not as hard as copper. haven't shot them yet.
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Nothing wrong with good old FMJ. It worked for Alvin York, it will work for you. FMJ is the original load for the 1911. When I was into 1911's, all I carried were FMJs. Much cheaper than hollowpoints, which do not always feed reliably, which is the most important thing.
Bigduane
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I Dont know the ups or downs of FMJ....but I got scolded at the range for the copper ones?
Bart? Why would anyone 'scold' you about copper jacketed bullets? Please explain a bit more.
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Im not sure why..... somebody just said I cant shoot them. It was my first time at the range so I said fine.....
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Hmmm! Curiouser and Curiouser!
May I suggest .... read the range rules and act accordingly.
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No less an authority than Rush Limbaugh has spoken. In the last hour he made the comment that .45 acp had disappeared from store shelves in South Floridia. :D I guess I better get looking.
Bigduane
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The shelves have been empty or almost empty at wallmart, joes sporting goods, fleet farm and gander mountain for about three months here in st paul area. I understand people are stocking up but when you go every couple of days to check and there's none of any caliber....... I mean come on. How hard can it be to mass produce more ammo? Am I missing something?
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Some stores around me do get some shipments of ammo, but people will wait around until the UPS truck shows up, and then buy all of the ammo. All of it. I was talking to a gun store employee a few weeks ago who said that just that morning some guy had stopped by every 20 minutes or so until some 9mm came in, and then bought all of it, about 1,000 rounds for $350.
Of course, being a student of economics, the obvious solution would be to raise the price of ammo much higher so that the store can make more money from that ammo. This would have the added benefit of limiting the amount any one person could buy, and then there wouldn't be so much of a shortage. Everyone would be able to buy at least a little. Some stores are already doing this.
I recently checked around for some 9x19, and I had to go to 7 different stores before finding one with ANY fmj with which to train. It was expensive. $0.50/round. $24 for a box of 50. Sure, I didn't like paying that much, but if it had been cheaper, I probably wouldn't have been able to get any because someone else would have bought most or all of it. So, I just bought 2 boxes, and the owner said that he'd had this supply of 9mm for several weeks, but hadn't run out because it's expensive, therefore allowing more people to buy some ammo.
Better to have a little bit and it be expensive then have none of it while it's cheap.
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I made the rounds today. Cabella's in Gonzales Louisiana, no .45 acp. Ditto Bass Pro Shops in Denham Springs Louisiana. I found a couple of boxes at a walmart in Denham Springs, $29.95 a box, 230FMJ
Bigduane