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Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Topic started by: davidlachnicht on October 28, 2010, 01:00:42 PM
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The wife loves the idea of FSW, but she is no fan of snow.
Looking for suggestions to convince her it's time to go (snow-related, please).
Thanks.
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I lived all my life in the southern California desert. I wasn't looking forward to cold and snow either. But freedom was far more important than the temperature. I'm glad to report that I don't really mind the cold or snow now either. I adjusted.
It's all relative, and mostly relative to what is important in your life.
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Well...
There's snuggling in front of a roaring fire when the wind and snow is blowing, building snowmen, snow angels, skiing snowboarding, snowmobiling, sledding, ice fishing. If it snows enough, they close the roads so you don't have to go to work - then get to stay home with your family...
That's all I can think of...... :)
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Look at it this way. MILLIONS of people in the U.S. live in the East, the Midwest, the Mountain states, and Northern Plains.
It's not as if WY was above the arctic circle and was really at the 99th percentile of hostile weather. No, people adjust and adapt to it. If you live in a city where roads are plowed, sanded, and salted, and sidewalks are cleared, then there's really not that much impact.
What we don't have is floods (usually), hurricanes, sandstorms, tornadoes (usually), or perpetual rain (like the Northwest).
I used to live in So. Nevada. I find the heat was at least as oppressive as the winter climate is here.
Different strokes for different folks. Which is more important? Freedom (relatively), low taxes, low cost of living, courteous people, wide open spaces, little traffic, and people who speak English, or climate? You decide.
Mac
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My wife is from Tucson and she's adjusted just fine.
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Snow? Eastern Wyoming doesn't get snow, it gets snirt.
And thanks to the low humidity, most of the snirt evaporates within days of falling.
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Is she into shopping? You could offer to buy her some really cute winter clothes. A fur(fake or real) lined coat? Some sweaters? Fur boots? Whatever she might be into....
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Whadya mean? Snow is FUUUNNN!!! Skiing is a real good excuse to buy a really cool new wardrobe too. >:D Hot toddies, gluvine, toasty fire, hey I know,, buy her a new fur coat and hat.
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I hate snow and hot weather. I make the best of either. When it's hot I enjoy a nice beer in the shade and the excuse to not work hard.
When I'm in the snow I do some of what Biathalon suggested.
Year round snow would be a burden, seasonal snow just breaks up the year.
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Simply read the Good Book to the little lady...
Ephesians 5:22-24 - Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
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I hate snow and hot weather. I make the best of either. When it's hot I enjoy a nice beer in the shade and the excuse to not work hard.
When I'm in the snow I do some of what Biathalon suggested.
Year round snow would be a burden, seasonal snow just breaks up the year.
It doesent snow year round. Usually there is no snow in July. :D
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Snow means that you can get all cozy and warm inside. Light some pine scented candles and feel all snuggly. Wear fleece and enjoy the winter weather. Plus... snow stays outside and you stay in! You can get all bundled up and do fun things in the snow and then come inside and drink hot chocolate and warm up. Snow totally rocks! It is a million times better then Pennsylvanian winter or an Ontario winter. If you move to a drier part of Wyoming you won't have to deal with snud either!
What is snirt? Snow + dirt? That has to be way better than snud. The nasty ice, snow, dirt things that cling to the bottom of your car and grind whenever you turn a corner.
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snow & dirt = snirt. Yes, very common, especially in SE Wyoming. We had many a snow fall where the snow we were receiving started falling in Laramie, but by the time it hit the ground, it was in Cheyenne. The clouds overhead were dropping snow in western Nebraska.
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It doesent snow year round. Usually there is no snow in July. :D
"usually"... But I've been up in Star Valley, WY almost every other summer for the last 15 years or so and there were many years that there would be a light snow in July/ August. Never a good idea to go anywhere without making sure the emergency box was in the back seat. The spare jackets can come in real handy. :)
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Look at it this way. MILLIONS of people in the U.S. live in the East, the Midwest, the Mountain states, and Northern Plains.
It's not as if WY was above the arctic circle and was really at the 99th percentile of hostile weather. No, people adjust and adapt to it. If you live in a city where roads are plowed, sanded, and salted, and sidewalks are cleared, then there's really not that much impact.
Mac
Very true! I always try to remind people that Wyoming (at least where we are in Wyo) is 2 degrees south of my hometown of Scranton, PA. Rock Springs is also 14 degrees south, or about 1000 miles directly south, of where we used to live in Northern Alberta... yet people here always say to us, "Well, up here in Wyoming the winter's are really hard..." What part of 1000 miles SOUTH did they miss in that statement? lol.
On a more serious note, the winters are dry here. That makes a big difference. We're already down into the 20s and 30s and I barely bother to put on a coat to walk to my car most days. You wouldn't catch me doing that out east. I'm not sure where you're from, but if it's a relatively humid place, cold where you are is not what you're thinking when you think winter here. So, don't just think "winters in X + 1000 = Wyoming." Sure, Wyoming gets colder than most places in the lower 48, but you adapt to it. Your perception of "cold" changes faster than you'd think.
Mostly, I think people make a big deal out of it because they have nothing else to make a big deal of... and it makes them feel tough.
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True, but for every 1,000 ft elevation, subtract 2 degrees Centigrade. Star Valley is 6,000 ft + and most of Sublette Country (Pinedale, Big Piney) is 7,000 ft +.
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True, but for every 1,000 ft elevation, subtract 2 degrees Centigrade. Star Valley is 6,000 ft + and most of Sublette Country (Pinedale, Big Piney) is 7,000 ft +.
Yeah. The Star Valley area (the only area of WY that I have an real life experience in) seems to be it's own little region for weather. I get frequent email updates from family that live there and it seems they get snow every time I hear about anyone else getting rain.
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Some thoughts on cold weather,
Three things to consider, 1) Women often pay more attention to looking nice than men, 2) Women often have less body mass and get cold easier, 3) Dressing appropriately is not as easy as it seems.
Putting more bulky clothes on is not always the way to go. Thinner layers under the lightest coat or windbreaker possible may be best. She can strip off layers and not feel bulky when she wants. I live in MN and it took a few years to find the right combinations of clothes for walking, working and sitting outside in very cold weather.
Make sure you are open to ensuring your lady friend/wife/daughter has nice looking warm clothes, hat and gloves. Not Pillsbury dough boy working mans overalls, and barn boots. (Smile) Don't insist she tough it out, wait till she enjoys it for her self.
Having said all that, I have only marginal success getting my Honey out to enjoy the MN Winters.
enJoy,
Cody
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Good advice. Layering is especially important when it is seriously cold because you do not want to sweat! In the beginning, I found I put on too much rather than too little. Coming from the So. Calif. desert, it took me a while to get adjusted, but I'm doing very well now.
I'd also suggest that folks remain well hydrated, especially if you have wood heat. It took me a while to learn that, even though I came from the desert! When it is cold, I do not feel thirst as I do when it is warm, so must actually schedule some plain water intake each day. If you are dehydrated, the cold will affect you much more.
Wear a hat at all times outdoors, even if it doesn't seem too cold. You lose a great deal of heat from your unprotected head. Keep your feet and hands warm and dry too.
There are many fabrics and materials now to help with this process. Silk long underwear is expensive, but it feels SOOOO good, and insulates as well or better than wool, without the bulk. Fine silk gloves are an excellent liner for heavier mittens or gloves. You can take off the bulkier outer glove to do things like put a key in a door, without stripping your hand bare to the zero wind.
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Silk is nice, but polypropylene is the magic under garment. Honestly, most folks are not out in the weather for extended periods of time. If a person intends to sit for whatever reason, there are many items to aid in keeping warm. Hand warmers and feet warmers work well. If a person is active, layering is the best solution.
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Silk is nice, but polypropylene is the magic under garment.
I don't have a lot of experience with this, obviously, but I would always opt for a natural fiber instead of a synthetic. I had a pair of the poly glove liners and gave them away. Made my hands sweat, even when it was below zero. Each person has to find what works for them, obviously. :)
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"Women often have less body mass and get cold easier"
"Less body mass" Oh, Cody's sweet.
...And smart too!
~TG
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I’m with several women, and we all walk out into the weather, where it is quite cold, around zero. Immediately one of them says, “I’m cold!” I reply (with typical male logic ;)), “No, you’re not cold. You feel the cold air, and you’re getting colder, but you’re not cold. I feel the cold air, but I won’t be cold for twenty minutes or so.” To which she reasserted, “I’m cold!” My lesson is not that women defy logic (though some may argue ;D), my lesson is that some women perceive cold differently than men do.
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Tenacio nailed it.
I keep a "Chick Jacket" in the car for such occasions. It's amazing
how many times we get to stay longer at some cool place due to a simple
jean jacket placed around the shoulders.
A stylish down jacket in black might do for the snow.
Terence
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AAHwwww, comon guys, be creative! Winter is a great excuse to get a whole new wardrobe! Pick up any ski magazine and look through it. Cabelas has some far out ladies winter fashions too!
Then, gat her a ski pass! >:D