To present a full account of all of our adventures in the wonderful month just past would require a very thick log book. Let us just say that we had a nifty time touring the great mountain states in the lovely [Audi] S4 and seeing them at the peak of their spectacular fall colors. Not only is the "mountain redoubt" (Wyoming, Montana and Idaho) beautiful to see, but in addition it constitutes what may be the last refuge of dignity, decency and common sense in the United States (e.g. a bumper sticker we saw in Cody, Wyoming, announced, "Stop honking, I'm reloading.").
The place names up in that country are a delight in themselves: Spotted Horse, Wounded Wolf, Recluse, Medicine Bow, and Dead Swede - among others. This is indeed a grand region, but it is lonely. "People who need people" should look elsewhere.
-- Jeff Cooper, 1998
Your Checklist
I suggest that you follow these guidelines, as you prepare and then move to the American Redoubt:
Research geography, climate, and micro-climates very carefully.
Develop a home-based business.
Lighten the load. Keep the practical items but sell your junk and impractical items at a garage sale.
Bring your guns.
Sell your television.
Sell your jewelry and fancy wristwatch. Buy a Stihl chainsaw instead.
Choose your church home wisely, seeking sound doctrine, not "programs"
Leave your Big City expectations behind. There probably won't be cell phone coverage, high speed Internet, or Pilates.
Expect a long driving distances for work and shopping.
Sell your bric-a-brac and collectibles. What is more important? A large collection of Hummel figurines, or having a lot of good hand tools and Mason jars?
Switch to a practical wardrobe and "sensible shoes".
After your buy your land, convert the rest of your Dollar-denominated wealth into practical tangibles.
Begin homeschooling your children.
Sell your sports car and buy a reliable crew cab pickup.
Expect persecution and hardship. You will be despised for being true to your faith. (Just read 2 Timothy 3:1-12. and Matthew 5:10-14, and John 15:18-19.)
Encourage your kids to XBox and Wii less and read more.
Make a clean break by selling your house and any rental properties. You aren't coming back.
If you buy an existing house, get one with an extra bedroom or two. Some relatives may be joining you, unexpectedly.
Donate any older bulky furniture to the local charity store before you move.
After you move:
Don't try to change things to be like the suburb that you left behind. You are escaping all that!
Pitch in by joining the local Volunteer Fire Department (VFD), Ski Patrol, Sheriff's Posse, or EMT team.
Be a good neighbor.
Patronize the local farmer's market and craft shows.
Respect the property rights and the traditions of your neighbors.
Be active, politically, but use a pseudonym in letters to the editor an internet posts.
Use VPN tunneling, RSA encryption, firewalls, and anonymous remailers.
Support local businesses, and companies that are headquartered inside the Redoubt, not Wal-Mart.
Encourage like-minded family and friends to join you.
Stock up heavily on storage foods for lengthy power failures, or worse.
Do your banking locally, preferably with a credit union and/or a farm credit union.
Be active in local home school co-ops and service organizations.
Find and visit your local second-hand stores. Watch for useful, practical items that don't need electricity.
Conduct as much business as possible via barter or with precious metals.
Gradually acquire a home library that includes self-sufficiency books and classic books--history, biographies, and novels.
Join the local ham radio club. (Affiliated with the ARRL.)
Expect to be the subject of gossip. Live a righteous life so there won't be much to gossip about.
Loyally support your local church with tithes and support your local food bank.
Get used to eating venison, elk, moose, antelope, trout, and salmon.
Attend some farm auctions in your region to gather a good collection of useful hand tools and a treadle sewing machine.
Attend gun shows in your state. (This keeps money circulating in the state and keeps you legal, for private gun purchases.)
Choose your fights wisely. Don't tilt at windmills, but when you feel convicted, don't back down.
Sell your jewelry and fancy wristwatch. Buy a Stihl chainsaw instead.
Sell your sports car and buy a reliable crew cab pickup.
Some relatives may be joining you, unexpectedly.
Pitch in by joining the local Volunteer Fire Department (VFD), Ski Patrol, Sheriff's Posse, or EMT team.
gather... a treadle sewing machine.
JQuotePitch in by joining the local Volunteer Fire Department (VFD), Ski Patrol, Sheriff's Posse, or EMT team.
Great! In other words, become just another tax-eating government employee. ::)
If they can also knit a strong vertically integrated economy, especially with local money -- they'll be almost immune from the worst of national/international complications.
...The USA is still the best (so far) for rural hardy types who are enthusiastic members of the gun culture.
Boston
. . . more thoroughly scouting their terrain (i.e. their body of law - commercial, international securities, estate, etc) and securing a spot that gives more "coasting potential" for the vehicle of a private community.
. . .the external governing laws of commerce and property . . .
[AND]
. . .the prime movers hold majority voting rights via stock in commodity capital (coal, oil, other mineral reserves), declarations of future cashflow expectations from commercial transactions, etc...that's what woos the politicians.
Shoot at this plane with whatever gun you want ;D Just tossin ideas around.
Obviously, one of the tried-and-true tactics in corralling an uncooperative adversary is to wear them down or overpower economically -
Since everything is on the matrix, as you say, one way to hone things down
might be to define what success look like, find a person or group in history that's
done it and reverse engineer their structure. How did the Amish get out
of Social Security? How were they opted out of Obamacare before the
monopoly creating exclusion list was even created? Why do the police want nothing
to do with China town? How do inmates ever get to the point of controlling a prison?
There's lots of game-theory type examples in nature, as well, depending on what's
trying to be accomplished.
Ordnung - definition - All aspects of Amish life are dictated by a list of written or oral rules, known as Ordnung, which outlines the basics of the Amish faith and helps to define what it means to be Amish. For an Amish person, the Ordnung may dictate almost every aspect of one's lifestyle, from dress and hair length to buggy style and farming techniques. The Ordnung varies from community to community and order to order, which explains why you will see some Amish riding in automobiles, while others don't even accept the use of battery-powered lights. attribute-> http://pittsburgh.about.com/cs/pennsylvania/a/amish_2.htm
I sort of did this with the FSW after watching liberals flood into Colorado and
change the state.
[A book] showing how such communities could operate.
Yet another attempt to lasso Boston into some sort of herd & he cunningly avoids - the dude does not abide Perhaps a parallel (un)organization like you suggest is best.LOL!
...maybe the US Constitution shouldn't be my Bible !!
. . . I may have to change my little slogan below, after some more research, of course. FREEDOM is still my religion, but maybe the US Constitution shouldn't be my Bible !!
Been watching this trend the last few years, talking to junior guys (first hitch) about their training; and peacekeeping operations within US has become a recurring topic, and they are trained that they will do it.
So what to us older folks is repugnant, has been made a certainty. This new mission suddenly appeared (with twisted legal justifications) a few years ago, and the new guys buy into what they are told, by and large.
Asking about army role during Katrina leads to many young guys explaining 'that most people don't understand' ...., and they lay out the same set of justifications they have been briefed on, and how they've been told they will be needed for this role in the future. One is a fluke. 200 is a sudden onset of a trend. Both army and marine corps? That's planning.
Based on the folks I talk to and their reactions, I would estimate that 85% of junior DoD goes against FreeFor. Years ago- It would have been reversed. But now it is trained. The culture of the junior guys is being driven from 'fighting for freedom' to 'fighting as apparatchicks in support of the regime'.
Two thoughts on the strategic level.
First, if a group of people want to actually secede, they need to think not just about terrain in regards to tactics, but the value of land they have and what the value is of it to their opponents. At the heart of 'American Redoubt' in Montana is one of America's largest and most strategic nuclear missile silo complexes. Do you think that this country, or any other country like China or Russia, would allow a bunch of 'patriots' to secede with such an asset? It would go ugly early, and if they had to they would simply bomb, gas, or shake and bake all the redoubters and take back the region around such facilities. If this government wasn't up to the task, they would likely call in China, Russia, the UN, or whomever to help (think about what they are doing now overseas and extrapolate...). Doing war in the US will be very handy for the government as aircraft from local bases can just sortie from home, maybe with the use of a tanker or two, and still have dinner with their families. Posse comitatus wold not apply, it was rescinded anyway in the 2007 defense authorization act.
Two interesting comments from that post on the Arctic Patriot blog:QuoteBeen watching this trend the last few years, talking to junior guys (first hitch) about their training; and peacekeeping operations within US has become a recurring topic, and they are trained that they will do it.
So what to us older folks is repugnant, has been made a certainty. This new mission suddenly appeared (with twisted legal justifications) a few years ago, and the new guys buy into what they are told, by and large.
Asking about army role during Katrina leads to many young guys explaining 'that most people don't understand' ...., and they lay out the same set of justifications they have been briefed on, and how they've been told they will be needed for this role in the future. One is a fluke. 200 is a sudden onset of a trend. Both army and marine corps? That's planning.
Based on the folks I talk to and their reactions, I would estimate that 85% of junior DoD goes against FreeFor. Years ago- It would have been reversed. But now it is trained. The culture of the junior guys is being driven from 'fighting for freedom' to 'fighting as apparatchicks in support of the regime'.
QuoteTwo thoughts on the strategic level.
First, if a group of people want to actually secede, they need to think not just about terrain in regards to tactics, but the value of land they have and what the value is of it to their opponents. At the heart of 'American Redoubt' in Montana is one of America's largest and most strategic nuclear missile silo complexes. Do you think that this country, or any other country like China or Russia, would allow a bunch of 'patriots' to secede with such an asset? It would go ugly early, and if they had to they would simply bomb, gas, or shake and bake all the redoubters and take back the region around such facilities. If this government wasn't up to the task, they would likely call in China, Russia, the UN, or whomever to help (think about what they are doing now overseas and extrapolate...). Doing war in the US will be very handy for the government as aircraft from local bases can just sortie from home, maybe with the use of a tanker or two, and still have dinner with their families. Posse comitatus wold not apply, it was rescinded anyway in the 2007 defense authorization act.
Terence I personally have to agree with the second quote I posted...while the land itself is valuable what with the various resources and space to move a growing population into....I think in the U.S. .gov thugs eyes, the most valuable part is the nuclear missile silos....if it comes down to a war of secession, they will try their damned hardest to get the armed forces to fight tooth and nail to maintain hold of those nuclear missile silos, and if they lose control, to recapture them. I have no problem believing if they were to lose control of the silos they would unleash something like VX or Sarin on the area to clear out of "insurgents" and wait until the nerve gas breaks down due to the weather before moving right back in. Some may call me paranoid or a crazy for believing that but when you've seen as much of my peers-in-age-only as I have, and humanity in general, you tend to get pretty damn cynical and misanthropic very quickly. I mention my peers-in-age-only due to the fact that THEY will be the solider the U.S. gov't will be using...the old geezers (no offense) would refuse to go against their morals in most cases...the new guys however....can easily be brainwashed into following any orders that come down from above like bugs....and doing anything that will help prevent the gov't from losing control of the "Vaterland"
It's sad really. So many people my age have had their anti-authoritarianism crushed, and pushed to be mindless sheeple from a variety of sources.
My 2 cents. (If it comes down to us against the US military we will lose, but)
I moved here for three reasons.
I subscribe to Gerald Celente and have for a very long time. Got out of many jams early 'cause I took action from his alerts.
1. In several of his newsletters 4 years or so ago he predicted the balkanization of America and that the surviving remnant of true Constitutional era America would be 3-5 states that being Wyoming at the heart with (in order of likelihood) Montana, North Dakota, Idaho, South Dakota, Utah and Nebraska.
2. There is a Christ based calling to the area in the Big Horn I have found myself. As I have lived here now for almost 4 years many of my neighbors also confirm this. I did not bring it up, but that is how I finally got here.
3. America is under judgment and the coasts are particularly worse as that is were the concentration of rebellion, idolatry, carnolatry, materialism, homosexuality, socialism and just about everything else you can imagine that rebels against and angers our Lord Almighty.
Have you read the book "The Harbinger" or are aware of the parallels America is on with Israel 2500 years ago? See Isaiah 9:10
This whole crap fest with the coming NWO, Soros, Obamanations, Fascism in the police state of America, etc. is not just a coincidence.
I am in a serious state of repentance, prayer and preparation as this is the mother of all spiritual wars coming at us like a freight train.
Wyoming is the best place to draw the line and fight for God's promise and protection for our liberty.
Just my opinion men and women. But I have seen the Glory of the coming of our Lord!
Thomas
P.S. If you want the book (and can not afford it) I will buy one and ship it to you as my gift. Just PM me your desire and address.
http://www.theharbinger-jonathancahn.com/Book/
If/when I sell my place, I haven't decided what part of Wyoming to move to and am open to other areas besides Crook and Weston counties.
I cant PM you Kingskid, the system will not let me. Maybe because I am still the new kid on the block around here.
Thomas
I have been busy here in the Big Horn Basin. My company was contacted by a "billionaire" impressed with what we have built.
He has contracted me and my company to run a campaign.
But before I get into what it is and how it could benefit many wanting to move here or those living here needing a hand up with income......
Can I advertise this campaign on this forum?
I do not see banners or such here.
Thomas Prendergast
I doubt you have a few years. Even 1 year is a stretch in my opinion (which ain't worth much).What about a place without much water or rain, so growing food is difficult? :(
It's really not good to be a refugee. Much better to stay put and try to improve your situation locally (you already have the connections and contacts you need to survive). As long as you are not in New York or Chicago, or something like that, you should be OK.
How do other people manage to do it???
As long as you are not in New York or Chicago, or something like that, you should be OK.
How do other people manage to do it???
Renting or purchasing modestly is the usual way. How about a
work for land lease kind of thing? Help a large landowner work their
land in return for a place to park your new RV.
There were several people from northern Colorado at the jam that seemed
pretty motivated to get out of there. Why do all this work to get to a place
where these informed people want to leave?
Terence
What about a place without much water or rain, so growing food is difficult? :(
I had a garden a couple of years ago, and spent more on water than I would have spent just buying the meager amount of veggies I managed to grow!
Nobody has basements here - all the homes are built on slabs
- but we might be able to grow stuff in an underutilized room at his place.
My 2 cents. (If it comes down to us against the US military we will lose, but)
I moved here for three reasons.
I subscribe to Gerald Celente and have for a very long time. Got out of many jams early 'cause I took action from his alerts.
1. In several of his newsletters 4 years or so ago he predicted the balkanization of America and that the surviving remnant of true Constitutional era America would be 3-5 states that being Wyoming at the heart with (in order of likelihood) Montana, North Dakota, Idaho, South Dakota, Utah and Nebraska.
2. There is a Christ based calling to the area in the Big Horn I have found myself. As I have lived here now for almost 4 years many of my neighbors also confirm this. I did not bring it up, but that is how I finally got here.
3. America is under judgment and the coasts are particularly worse as that is were the concentration of rebellion, idolatry, carnolatry, materialism, homosexuality, socialism and just about everything else you can imagine that rebels against and angers our Lord Almighty.
Have you read the book "The Harbinger" or are aware of the parallels America is on with Israel 2500 years ago? See Isaiah 9:10
This whole crap fest with the coming NWO, Soros, Obamanations, Fascism in the police state of America, etc. is not just a coincidence.
I am in a serious state of repentance, prayer and preparation as this is the mother of all spiritual wars coming at us like a freight train.
Wyoming is the best place to draw the line and fight for God's promise and protection for our liberty.
Just my opinion men and women. But I have seen the Glory of the coming of our Lord!
Thomas
P.S. If you want the book (and can not afford it) I will buy one and ship it to you as my gift. Just PM me your desire and address.
http://www.theharbinger-jonathancahn.com/Book/
Which makes all the more imperative for freedom supporters to head to your region.
Arizona isn't what it's cracked up to be. I am a little disappointed to say the least. I feel that there are too many GOP hacks here...
...I also love the fact that I can carry any way I wish w/o being hassled as is not the case in Wisconsin. Our move to AZ was a change for the better, but I am thus far reading that Wyoming could be a better fit for us!
Regards,
Brian
What is a GOP hack? ;)A knee jerk neocon, with their head in a '60s sit com. Rah rah big.gov war on something or other, pro crony crapitalism, with their own little fiefdom rigged just the way they like it (except it would be nice if the slaves were cheaper).
What is a GOP hack? ;)A knee jerk neocon, with their head in a '60s sit com. Rah rah big.gov war on something or other, pro crony crapitalism, with their own little fiefdom rigged just the way they like it (except it would be nice if the slaves were cheaper).
The sort of putrid pachyderm that snickers at a parliamentary double reverse on Dr. Paul and fronts the "conservative" android from Taxachusetts for prez.
What is a GOP hack? I moved to Arizona in 1961 and I don't think I ever met one.
Perhaps it was because I wasn't looking for one. Been too busy enjoying my freedom and the weather.
Why ruin a perfectly good day looking for politicians? ;)
Yeah, pretty much what stoky said. To me, a "GOP hack" is someone who thinks that Republican-controlled government is good and Democrat -controlled government is bad - "party not principles" types.
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