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Wyoming Research and Information => General Wyoming Living Information => Topic started by: FDNYLiberty on April 15, 2011, 08:05:26 AM
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Hi Folks,
Just seen on TV that the "average" price of a gallon of regular unleaded gasoline (as of 4/14/2011) is now $3.81. They said that this price was the "average" price everywhere across the USA EXCEPT in Wyoming.
What are you folks paying in different parts of Wyoming?
When I went to the gas station here in my town (suburb outside of NY City), and I was paying $4.04 regular unleaded. In New York City it is anywhere from $4.15-$4.39 a gallon.
Just curious. Thanks.
FDNYLiberty
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Yesterday at the Shell station in Campbell County - non-ethanol was 3.49 a gallon, 85 octane.
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This is the most useful website for gasoline prices I've ever seen:
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx (http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx)
I use it before I set out on any trip to decide which area to stop at.
As you can see, Wyoming is the "greenest" state! This is the only time I want to be "green".
You can zoom in, or double click on any area to see the individual gas station locations and prices.
What's really obvious from this map is the political boundaries and the prices. If the price of gas in any area was simply caused by its proximity to oil fields, refineries, or transportation, the state boundaries would not be obvious. The prices would slowly change with distance across the land. But look at Kalifornia. Sticks out like a big red thumb. Yet they drill for oil off the coast and much of the Alaskan Pipeline crude comes to Kalifornia for refining.
A picture says 1K words (modern phrasing).
Mac
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atlanta ga. runnin about $3.60ish ::)
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This is the most useful website for gasoline prices I've ever seen:
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx (http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx)
Thanks for this great site, Mac. I didn't realize you could double-click for prices because the first few times
you click it only zooms. I see you have to keep zooming to get to the local prices.
Las Vegas - 3.89
Reno - 3.91
NorCal - 4.05 (Ouch)
Marc Faber, Gerald Celente and, from a different perspective, Lindsey Williams are
predicting $175 - $200/barrel oil by September of next year. That would translate into approx. $8/gallon gas.
Time to lock in the price of airline tickets and expect surcharges on trucking and the resulting trickle
down of rising prices as a result. I hear one airline is going to start issuing tickets whereby the gas
component can be paid on the day of departure.
Terence
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A friend of mine in the UK says they are paying the equivalent of (US) $12.00 per gallon RIGHT NOW!
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Its mostly taxes to pay for the Social programs.
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Its mostly taxes to pay for the Social programs.
I agree. The same can be said for "state and federal tax" built into every gallon sold here. Here is NY, its HUGE.
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There are a few curious things though. Like Missouri. It's yellow and orange around St Louis, but green around Kansas City. What's with that?
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Great map FDNY. Thank you.
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There are a few curious things though. Like Missouri. It's yellow and orange around St Louis, but green around Kansas City. What's with that?
County and regional taxes, typically used to subsidize mass transit. :(
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$3.35 in Casper
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wow you guys are lucky. Gas here is like 4.20 plus a gallon
$3.35 in Casper
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Thanks for the link. Green states are looking good ;D
Michigan not so good
This is the most useful website for gasoline prices I've ever seen:
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx (http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx)
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$3.98 in Dayton, OH.
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$4.38 (regular unleaded) where I live In NY City area. Higher in NY City.
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Chicago is at $4.78 for Reg.
lake Co.(north of Chciago) is at $4.19 for reg.
they also jump the price by 12 cents from reg to mid to hi test now
they are saying it will be over $5.00 here by the end of summer
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Gas now below $3.50, diesel below $4.00 in Laramie County.
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Waupun WI, 3.98 a gal
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I bought gas in Gillette yesterday for $2.999 / gallon, then I saw a place at $2.989 / gallon!
Over in Spearfish it's about $3.10 per gallon this week.
Right now, WY gas prices are the LOWEST IN THE COUNTRY.
Mac
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then I saw a place at $2.989 / gallon!
I think that place may be the EXXON station where you'll need to buy an overpriced car wash to get that discount price.
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$2.97 yesterday in Newcastle, down from $2.99 on Wednesday.
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Tell 'em to HOLD that price (or better, reduce it), I'll be there there in less than a month for the Newcastle gun show. March 17-18, 2012 !
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Tell 'em to HOLD that price (or better, reduce it), I'll be there there in less than a month for the Newcastle gun show. March 17-18, 2012 !
Wish I could. I told them to hold it at $2.40 - but they didn't pay any attention then either. :)
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Wish I could. I told them to hold it at $2.40 - but they didn't pay any attention then either. :)
Yah, I understand :( Actually, I responded to your post because I wanted to remind readers to: Come to the Newcastle gun show on March 17-18, 2012 ............................. (clever, huh ?)
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That's what I like about Clem: he's always so subtle in his meanings!
Mac
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I'm paying 3.05 for premium here. A couple of stations by the highway are stupid enough to go at ten cents more, and there's a Sinclair on 2nd street that sells at the two cent mark rather than five.
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I'd say to prepare for gas to become VERY expensive, and probably hard to get at any price eventually... Beware of renewed efforts to steal gas from parked cars.
Why Is Gasoline Consumption Tanking http://www.streettalklive.com/off-the-street/683-why-is-gasoline-consumption-tanking.html
(Street Talk Live) by Charles Hugh Smith.
Gasoline deliveries reflect recession and growth. The recent drop in retail gasoline deliveries is signalling [sic] a sharp contraction ahead. Mish recently posted some intriguing charts depicting a significant decline in gasoline consumption. Then correspondent Joe R. forwarded me this stunning chart of gasoline retail deliveries, from the U.S. Energy Information Administration: (EIA) As Joe noted, this data is interesting because it is un-manipulated, that is, it is not "seasonally adjusted" or run through some black-box modifications like so much other government data. Retail gasoline deliveries, already well below 1980 levels, have absolutely fallen off a cliff. Is the plunge inventory-related, i.e. are storage facilities so full that retailers are simply putting off deliveries? Though I don't have data on hand to support this, I know from one of my correspondents who is in the gasoline distribution/delivery business that gasoline is very much a "just in time" commodity: gas stations are often close to running out of fuel when they get a delivery. Stations aren't holding huge quantities of surplus gasoline; that's not how the business works. Given the absence of "extra storage" in gas stations (and the fact that the number of gas stations has fallen dramatically since 1980), it is reasonable to conclude that retail delivery is largely a function of demand, i.e. gasoline consumption. Even if you dismiss the recent plunge as an outlier, the declines in retail gasoline deliveries are mind-boggling. If you look at the data from 1983 to 2011 on the link above, you will note that delivery declines align with recessions.
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Clem Mac, could you tell me where the gun show is in Newcastle, and the times? Much appreciated!
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kbar6,
The gun show at Newcastle is at the Weston County Senior Citizen's Center. US Highway 16 runs into and through Newcastle, I come to Newcastle from the west more or less on Highway 16 and turn north at the food market on the north side of Hwy. 16, then drive north for 3-4 blocks. I don't know the street names and I don't remember what the food store is named ???
Susan, or some other Newcastle resident, I need help with specifics :D
Saturday March 17th, 0900-1700
Sunday March 18th, 0900-1600
Clem
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Thanks Clem! I'll have to check it out.
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Thanks Clem! I'll have to check it out.
You're welcome ;D
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The gun show at Newcastle is at the Weston County Senior Citizen's Center. US Highway 16 runs into and through Newcastle, I come to Newcastle from the west more or less on Highway 16 and turn north at the food market on the north side of Hwy. 16, then drive north for 3-4 blocks. I don't know the street names and I don't remember what the food store is named ???
Susan, or some other Newcastle resident, I need help with specifics :D
Don't know how this got into "gas prices" - but ok.
Store is called "Decker's Market." You can only turn one way there. The old school that is now the senior center is at the end of that road. You can't go any farther without turning again. Large parking lot in front. There are usually signs directing folks to the gun show at the corner by the market.
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Don't know how this got into "gas prices" - but ok.
Store is called "Decker's Market." You can only turn one way there. The old school that is now the senior center is at the end of that road. You can't go any farther without turning again. Large parking lot in front. There are usually signs directing folks to the gun show at the corner by the market.
I don't know why it's here either, I'm just responding to a request for information and of course we encourage everyone to come to the gun show if possible ;D
Thank you MamaLiberty for the help with Newcastle names and places 8)
Just in case, here's a link to the "proper" thread ... http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=12252.0
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To get back on track.
We paid $3.34 for regular at Hulett, Wyoming on Thursday March 1, 2012. Gas is usually a bit more expensive at Hulett, but that day it was cheaper than I expected it to be 8)
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Well the price jump from 3.39 to 3.99 here just north of Chicago.
God I hate this place, but someday I'll be free, someday
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Well the price jump from 3.39 to 3.99 here just north of Chicago.
God I hate this place, but someday I'll be free, someday
In NY City, I saw (low) gas prices today at $4.09 (Cash) and $4.16 (Credit) for regular unleaded. At one "on the highway" Mobil station, they wanted $4.27 for regular unleaded (cash price), $4.38 (credit). I dont even want to mention what they wanted for "super" grades.
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In NY City, I saw (low) gas prices today at $4.09 (Cash) and $4.16 (Credit) for regular unleaded. At one "on the highway" Mobil station, they wanted $4.27 for regular unleaded (cash price), $4.38 (credit). I dont even want to mention what they wanted for "super" grades.
What was their (Gold) or (Silver) price? ;D
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Im in So Cal right now and gas in 4.60 for regulat and rising 3 cents every day.
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Im in So Cal right now and gas in 4.60 for regulat and rising 3 cents every day.
QUICK, get the hell outta there, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
While you still have a chance!!!!!!
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Wish I could. I told them to hold it at $2.40 - but they didn't pay any attention then either. :)
Yah, I understand :( Actually, I responded to your post because I wanted to remind readers to: Come to the Newcastle gun show on March 17-18, 2012 ............................. (clever, huh ?)
I just saw this and got quite a laugh out of it. :D
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QUICK, get the hell outta there, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
While you still have a chance!!!!!!
And WHO is saying "get out now"? Isn't this like the pot calling the kettle black? ;D
Mac
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QUICK, get the hell outta there, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
While you still have a chance!!!!!!
And WHO is saying "get out now"? Isn't this like the pot calling the kettle black? ;D
Mac
LOL Mac, you are correct! HOWEVER, unlike many who are still undecided :-\, or who wish to move to WY and for whatever reason can not :(, I'm working in FAST FORWARD MOTION OF "GETTING THE HELL OUTTA HERE".
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$3.259 in Gillette today for regular unleaded.
Was $2.999 3 weeks ago.
Mac
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Who knows what the future price will be. It'll be higher. If you're just learning this I feel worried for you. Good luck.
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Who knows what the future price will be. It'll be higher. If you're just learning this I feel worried for you. Good luck.
It could be lower. Don't get me wrong, I expect the Fed to print money & cause hyper-inflation but you never know. We may have a deep depression with deflation. Not likely, but possible.
I'm not sure which is worse, a deep depression or hyper-inflation. :(
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Where's the moderator!? I didn't read through all of this grammatical disaster ^^ but it looks pretty spammy to me. This is the second post of this type I've come across so far. It's almost unintelligible and totally off topic! Are we being infiltrated?
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Where's the moderator!? I didn't read through all of this grammatical disaster ^^ but it looks pretty spammy to me. This is the second post of this type I've come across so far. It's almost unintelligible and totally off topic! Are we being infiltrated?
The moderators are pretty quick to eliminate this stuff. It is best not to respond in any way, except to click on the link in the spam post that says "report to moderator." That's all anyone needs to do.
And, unfortunately, spam is a part of almost every message board and forum I know. Just has to be dealt with.
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I was looking for a "report spam" button, but I see now that it says "report to moderator." Anyway, someone has apparently dispatched this ne'er-do-well already. And since the post in question has been duly removed, let me state for the record that I was not accusing Steve C. of being unintelligible (as it now appears).
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I was looking for a "report spam" button, but I see now that it says "report to moderator." Anyway, someone has apparently dispatched this ne'er-do-well already. And since the post in question has been duly removed, let me state for the record that I was not accusing Steve C. of being unintelligible (as it now appears).
Sure... and that's one reason we discourage folks from responding to the spam... makes the thread messy once they are removed. :)
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I was looking for a "report spam" button, but I see now that it says "report to moderator." Anyway, someone has apparently dispatched this ne'er-do-well already. And since the post in question has been duly removed, let me state for the record that I was not accusing Steve C. of being unintelligible (as it now appears).
Sure... and that's one reason we discourage folks from responding to the spam... makes the thread messy once they are removed. :)
That's good to hear. I was wondering why he was calling my post spam. ;D
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Meanwhile... back at gas prices... I paid $3.43 for unleaded reg. here in Newcastle on Tuesday. That's cash price. Credit card costs you another 3 cents a gallon. One place advertises 10 cents a gallon off on Sunday if you buy at least 10 gallons. My car only holds 8 gallons when bone dry. Need to take a 5 gallon gas can with me, but I never remember.
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I believed I paid $3.82 on Sunday. Let's call it an even 50 cents more here (North Florida).
And did I read somewhere previously that you have non-ethanol? All gas here contains at least 10%. Also, not to pry, but what sort of vehicle only holds 8 gallons?
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I believed I paid $3.82 on Sunday. Let's call it an even 50 cents more here (North Florida).
And did I read somewhere previously that you have non-ethanol? All gas here contains at least 10%. Also, not to pry, but what sort of vehicle only holds 8 gallons?
Yes, you can get gas with no alcohol in it. Usually a bit more expensive. I drive a little Saturn. It gets 36 MPG. <G>
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Well the &^%$#@ have the price up to $4.39 for reg unleaded here in the land of commie Illinois.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Yes, there is a shortage. They dont have enough for exports so they got to raise the prices here.
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Ever try to calculate how much of that price is tax (at every level of production and distribution, besides the direct tax), and all of the idiotic regulations and legal barriers that eliminate sources and make production difficult to impossible? How long was it again since any new refineries were built? If the price they got for the actual product was that high, you'd think someone would enter the market... But nobody is allowed to do that, of course.
I think it's some sort of miracle we have any access to gasoline at all.
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The direct tax on a gallon, at least here in L.A., is about $1.25 per gallon. That includes only fed and state fuel taxes and sales taxes. There are of course other taxes as ML has mentioned.
Here's a blog that addresses the real reason behind high gas prices. FSW and FSP are also mentioned in one of the posts.
http://www.sledgereport.com/blog.html (http://www.sledgereport.com/blog.html)
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Diesel has been so high, I have'nt driven my Dodge with the Cummins in several weeks. When we have to go anywhere we take her Subaru. Diesel has been right at $4/gallon almost all winter here. Btween the cost of a new pickup and fuel prices, I've decided there are'nt too many places I want to go. We wait until we have a good sized list of things we need before we go into town. Im curious what fuel prices will be this summer.
Tex
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The Town Pump here in Casper sells ethanol free, but only low and mid grade. Considering whether I should, the subaru turbo wants 91 octane, but the pure will be better for it anyway.
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$3.459 for regular in Gillette today. Although I saw $3.59 across the street, it might have been one of those "cash prices" that I see at some stations.
Mac
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For planning purposes it's probably best to build $8/gallon into expectations and work from there.
Anything less feels like a break and you end up with a mental buffer for the price volatility.
With the exception of Venezuela and the middle-east, the rest of the world has been
living with such 'outrageous' prices for quite some time.
Terence
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The rest of the world dosent have zoning and allows you to work within walking distance from your home. Or even work in your home. Places that do have long commutes have cheap effective public transportation. I was in LA a few weeks ago and took the train. It cost me more and took twice as long as driving would have....
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For planning purposes it's probably best to build $8/gallon into expectations and work from there.
Anything less feels like a break and you end up with a mental buffer for the price volatility.
With the exception of Venezuela and the middle-east, the rest of the world has been
living with such 'outrageous' prices for quite some time.
Terence
Good advice
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This spamer even changed the heading. I didn't know anyone could do that.
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$2.99 for cash in Upton, WY!
It's been a long while since I could fill the Jeep for under $50!
Kelly
EDIT: $2.90 for cash in Upton today!
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$2.93 in Newcastle with the Sinclair discount card. No idea what it is in Upton.
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You see? I knew Obama's "Hope and Change" and "Forward" would come thru for us! >:D
Mac
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You see? I knew Obama's "Hope and Change" and "Forward" would come thru for us! >:D
Mac
Yea sure thing buckwheat
still at 3.49 here with diesel at 4.09
In the land of the People Republic of Illinois
God I hate this state.
Dawg
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Yea sure thing buckwheat
still at 3.49 here with diesel at 4.09
In the land of the People Republic of Illinois
God I hate this state.
Dawg
My daughter lives there. I now call it "The Land of Obama". When I lived there 50 years ago it was called "The Land of Lincoln". Probably equally bad.
Time to move, Dawg!
Mac
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$2.85/gal cash in Upton on Wed!!
Kelly
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How quickly we become accustomed to things. Suddenly, what used to be outrageous, is now a deal!
And not just prices.
"Look mommy, that bad man isn't wearing his seat belt!"
"Look mommy, that bad woman is smoking outside!"
"Look mommy, that bad man eating a hamburger has a GUN on his belt!"
"Look mommy, those bad people across the street are shooting fireworks that go waaaay up! Isn't that illegal mommy?"
:(
Mac
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The best we saw in southern California a week ago, and the week before that, was $3.89...but California has a lot of gas taxes!
In Albuquerque a week ago, $2.89 was good. Mid-week, I found $2.85. Yesterday, $2.81!
(I would rather have it under $2 but even this is a positive trend for now. We emptied the stored cans into the Jeep and I'll refll them with $2.81 gas.)
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Yeah, prices are relative to a lot of things. Don't remember what year, but I once filled up at $5.50 a gallon - So. Calif. long time ago.
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$2.57 in Casper yesterday.
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I've been "frustrated" with these "low" prices. I use only cash, and even here in WY the # of places allowing you to pump first with cash has dropped. So for the last two weeks in Gillette where I have to go into the Flying J and prepay, I try to give just enough to fill it just shy of clicking off so I don't have to go back in. Darn! Both times I still waaaay overestimated the $$ consumed and had to go back and get my change.
Life is tough here in Wyoming . . . ;D
Was $2.759 I think.
Mac
Ps. I've posted this link before and I'll do it again:
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx (http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx)
Quite useful. You can see at a glance that Casper and Gillette are low prices. Just keep double clicking and drilling down to locate exact stations and exact prices.
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$2.67 in Gillette last week.
Kelly
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$2.67 to $2.69 here in Albuquerque last week. This week a lot more! The best I could find was in the $2.70s and some of the cheaper stations last week are in the $2.80s or $2.90s this week. :-[
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Most places in Colorado Springs are right around $2.65-$2.69 but there is one that is over $3 for some reason...
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Here in the Peoples Republic of Illinois, Gas has gone down to $3.39.
It was up to $3.59
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Oh we miss the cheaper gas prices in Wyoming.....
We came back to MN last week with $3.25/gal to greet us.....and still is hovering around that price. Right now in the Twin Cities gas ranges $3.19-3.35/gal
Here's an interesting map to look at for gas prices across the nation.
http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/Prices_Nationally.aspx (http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/Prices_Nationally.aspx)
this link is by county:
http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/Price_By_County.aspx (http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/Price_By_County.aspx)
Since most gasoline is at octane rating of 87 (mid-grade gas is 89, and premium is 91-93). Wouldn't the price per gallon comparison have to be from the exact same octane? I certainly remember filling up gas in Wyoming for $2.67/gal for the 85 octane. Actually, come to think of it, we filled up with the mid-grade level a couple times in Wyoming, since it was cheaper than the lowest octane!
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$3.29 in Ames, Iowa :( That's the 10% ethanol blend, regular is around $3.39
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Whoops, Spoke to soon.
gas at $3.59 again and going higher
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Cash price $2.68 here.
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$3.29 in the Fort Worth area today. .20 cents higher in just a couple of days.
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Well gas hit 3.79 today.
are we at war with anyone?
last time it jump like this we were at war.
Thanks Ovomit
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I noticed that here, too...$2.85
>:(
Kelly
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Well I do not know whats going on, but gas is at 4.30 a gal now
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$3.49 now "here" in Gillette:
I always use this web site before traveling:
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx (http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx)
to plan my stops.
Mac
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$3.41 yesterday in Newcastle at the Sinclair. Goes up and down almost daily, sometimes in large leaps. I can only imagine what a nightmare it must be to run a gas station these days.
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$3.41 yesterday in Newcastle at the Sinclair. Goes up and down almost daily, sometimes in large leaps. I can only imagine what a nightmare it must be to run a gas station these days.
At least there IS gas with no lines! You may remember that happening in the 70's, maybe someday it will happen again. (Not including things like storms)
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At least there IS gas with no lines! You may remember that happening in the 70's, maybe someday it will happen again. (Not including things like storms)
Yes, I do remember. My first husband managed a Shell station during those years. The station was in a small town on the outskirts of San Bernardino. They were very busy at times, and occasionally could not get gas at all, but I don't remember any long lines. I suspect that was mostly a big city thing.
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Just back from Italy where gas is just over $6/gallon. At least the wine was a bargain!
Kelly