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Free State Wyoming (FSW) Promotional => Marketing and Media Coverage of Free State Wyoming (FSW) => Topic started by: Jason on June 01, 2006, 01:04:41 AM
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Administrator: I think this is the right place for this post, but if not please move it.
I stumbled on the below site and it gave me an idea:
http://www.zazzle.com/
The Internet’s # 1 Website for Making Custom T-shirts
We should make a FSW t-shirt - it would help get the word out among other things, especially to those of us who aren't yet in WY. Anyone here a t-shirt designer or artist? That company will take your picture or design and words and put them on the t-shirt however you want. So, if someone has the FSW logo and a FSW slogan/tag line/whatever you want to call it, then a t-shirt can be put together very fast. I've never personally used them but they seem like a good company. And, the more you order, the cheaper the price - goes at $13.95 I think and if you buy 200 you get them for $8.95/ea. Plus the designer gets 10% of the sale/profit (not sure which) when their t-shirt is bought by another customer on the site.
Just a thought. Let me know what you think. Anyone interested in trying it out?
J
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T-shirts are a great idea, but those prices are pretty high. A friend of mine has a t-shirt business with an automatic 6-color press, and even using nice shirts and multiple colors, the price should be around four or five dollars.
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T-shirts would be good, how 'bout bumper stickers too.
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That would be more in Boston's realm than mine. ;D
My wife an I were tossing around the idea of bringing stickers, bumber stickers, iron-ons, etc. to the Jam to sell (with a percentage of the profits going to FSW coffers of course) but in the end ran out of time to get them printed (also were unsure of any copyright toes we might step on). A friend of ours is a graphics designer, so I'll need to contact Boston and see if we can work out something.
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I was thinking about beer (or soda) glasses with the FSW logo. In rather low quantities, they can be less than a buck each. As well as regular imprint colors, this company also has "satin etch" (frosted glass) which I think would look nice for the logo.
http://www.customglassware.com/printed_glasses_215.htm
I sent Boston a PM some time back, offering to have the glasses made with the FSW logo and offering them for sale, but I have not heard back yet.
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I'm not sure what value a FSW bumper sticker would have for us already in Wyoming, but you can make your own easily with clear plastic contact "paper" and some acrilic paints. You'll need a stencil for the letters and maybe someone could come up with a stencil for the logo if anyone wanted it. You can use them on a bumper, or letter backwards and use them in the car window.
Be warned, however, that these are absolute hell to remove, so be sure you really want it first. LOL
My sister in California has one that says: I'm Out OF Estrogen and I have a Gun! BACK OFF!
I don't know why, but she's never been pulled over by the cops. She leads a charmed life, for sure.
MamaLiberty
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Good idea. That's why FSW T-shirts, bumper stickers, mugs and more are in the works. ;D
Actually, they have been for awhile, but progress is finally being made.
NOTICE TO THOSE WHO WOULD MAKE THEIR OWN: The FSW logo, name, and other artwork (including the coin graphics) is copyrighted.
Richard, if you've got someone who will do QUALITY work (I'll need to see samples) and will accept payment and handle shipping on behalf of the group, let me know. I don't think anybody is averse to price shopping. :)
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Richard, if you've got someone who will do QUALITY work (I'll need to see samples) and will accept payment and handle shipping on behalf of the group, let me know. I don't think anybody is averse to price shopping. :)
I don't know anyone in the business of glassware. The company I linked seemed like the best of the few that I found on the Internet, but I have not done business with them. As for samples, they might have some generic examples for sale (or maybe not). Since the first order of 144 would only come to $176 ($0.98 x 144 + $35), I would recommend just placing the order and seeing how they come out.
As for the t-shirts, I don't remember getting any feedback good or bad, but I'll assume that everyone was satisfied with my friend's job last year :)
I am not in any kind of selling business, but if nobody else is interested, I guess that I would volunteer to buy the product and ship them out for exactly what my costs are (and not one penny more). If you or Boston feel you require a royalty, perhaps you could stipulate a donation with each order.
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One suggestion on shirts, if we could get a larger logo/slogan on the back, and a couple different versions, then I'd buy several.
From what I saw the extra shirts from last year just had the logo in the "front pocket" location.
And re: stickers and shirts for people already in Wyoming, it'd be nice to have a liberty-themed design without necessarily spelling out the Free State Wyoming project, to keep it more "low profile" (i.e. go along with our existing policy of not speaking to the locals about free state/Libertarian (big "L")-type of stuff) .........
Oh, and if we could get them in Wyoming-type colors like beige and sage, that'd be great.
RazorCityRifleman, I thought your wardrobe at the jamboree weekend was great! For those of you not there, he only wore civvie clothes but they were all in landscape-appropriate colors and it might as well have been camo. It made me want to toss my bright colored fleeces and such. ;D
(hmm, my one suggestion turned into three.......... :D)
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Richard, if you've got someone who will do QUALITY work (I'll need to see samples) and will accept payment and handle shipping on behalf of the group, let me know. I don't think anybody is averse to price shopping. :)
I don't know anyone in the business of glassware. The company I linked seemed like the best of the few that I found on the Internet, but I have not done business with them. As for samples, they might have some generic examples for sale (or maybe not). Since the first order of 144 would only come to $176 ($0.98 x 144 + $35), I would recommend just placing the order and seeing how they come out.
As for the t-shirts, I don't remember getting any feedback good or bad, but I'll assume that everyone was satisfied with my friend's job last year :)
We're already working with a company that will handle everything and without a minimum order to boot. I'm well aware of the quality of the work they provide, and they're excellent. I expect we'll stick with that for now.
I am not in any kind of selling business, but if nobody else is interested, I guess that I would volunteer to buy the product and ship them out for exactly what my costs are (and not one penny more). If you or Boston feel you require a royalty, perhaps you could stipulate a donation with each order.
No need for that, Richard, though your offer is a substantial one and certainly appreciated. For now, we'll take care of it via existing vendor relationships. We'll make an announcement here when we're good to go.
Thanks, all!
P.S. Jared, if you keep coming up with more good ideas, PM me with them and we'll see what we can do. :)
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Any word on the T-shirts?
I need one to wear in NH ;D
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Good Evening,
Any T-Shirts, left? I can think of a variety of places in the Washington, Metro area that I would wear such.
Regards,
Crispin
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Quite frankly, the bottleneck to this all has been solely I/Me.
Sorry about that!
Things are now quieting down for me, so...
LL has some preliminary designs for me to approve, and
we'll have some basic FSW products soon, and likely before
Christmas.
T-shirts and ballcaps are a go, and mugs likely are too.
More details soon...
I think a poll here would be helpful.
Two polls, actually: one for T-shirt sizes, and the other
for possible other products.
Boston
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Was XL intentionally omitted?
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My goof--thanks for pointing that out, Jared.
I've added XL, but please re-vote.
Boston
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Did these ever get made?
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I hadn't thought about it in a long time... but it doesn't look like enough people are interested to make any up - or enough of them to keep the price reasonable.
If we get enough interest, maybe we can have them in time for the '08 Jam. That would be really cool!
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Quite frankly, the bottleneck to this all has been solely I/Me.
Get on the stick, homey! ;D
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If it would help I want two or three.
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count me in for 2 or 3, :P
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Did anything ever get done about this? I'd buy one.
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I'll take 3, where do I send the FRNs?
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I'd buy a couple as well. Why not use www.cafepress.com? It seems pretty easy, upload your design and open an online store with them. they handle everything else and send you a profit check......They can put your design on anything from shirts to coffee cups. plus they have a ton of different shirts to choose from.
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I'm sure there has to be an upfront cost for any supplier. If someone wants to take the point on this and get the information, we could probably come up with the money somehow. It would be neat if we could get these ready to pass to the buyers at the "festival" in June. Those who couldn't come would have theirs mailed to them.
Jared, are you still going to do this or do we need to find someone else?
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I'm sure there has to be an upfront cost for any supplier. If someone wants to take the point on this and get the information, we could probably come up with the money somehow.
I have already offered. I really do not understand why some people favor fourteen dollar t-shirts and ignore my offer of three to four dollars each. I also made an offer to handle the logo drinking glasses for about a dollar each, and not keep a nickel profit for myself, but nobody was interested in that either. Oh, well...
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I've got some in the works with a local printer, they'll be available before the summer fest.
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I'm sure there has to be an upfront cost for any supplier. If someone wants to take the point on this and get the information, we could probably come up with the money somehow.
I have already offered. I really do not understand why some people favor fourteen dollar t-shirts and ignore my offer of three to four dollars each. I also made an offer to handle the logo drinking glasses for about a dollar each, and not keep a nickel profit for myself, but nobody was interested in that either. Oh, well...
hold on now, lets talk this through, we need to agree on one logo, something like FSW on little chest logo, and big FSW on the back, the words free stste wy. has to be on it somewhere, and maybe a good quote from the passed, come on people,
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... something like FSW on little chest logo, and big FSW on the back, the words free stste wy....
And permission from Boston, the owner of the FSW trademark.
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anyway you go, we still need to get this out to the public, let every1 hear or see this project, then decide for themselves,
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Jared's been PMing about this.
It's all fine with me, and for this batch,
50% of the net profits should go to
FSW webmistress/logo designer Lady Liberty.
(Normally, the FSW and she would split that
50%, but I'd like FSW's share to go to her
for this run.)
Meanwhile, please email some design samples.
Boston
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Any news from the T-shirt front?
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Last I heard, Jared was having some made for the June WSF event.
Jared?
Boston
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Yep, my bud is converting the pic to vector format for me since all I had was Photoshop, that way it scales better for the screen printer.
It's still a green light.
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I'd think in this community of capitalists there'd be at least one screen printer.
Maybe there isn't one willing to argue over a trademarked logo instead of just inventing his/her own.
Just a couple of ideas.
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Actually, there's been no "arguing" over the FSW trademarked logo at all.
LadyLiberty designed it for no up-front cost, and a portion of any net profits
go to her if when used in any FSW merchandise.
And, since "Free State Wyoming" and "FSW" are trademarks, an independent
design would not circumvent the general trademark issue, anyway.
Boston
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If you guys come up with one in earthy tones or desert/woodland cammo, I will buy one or two or three depending on cost. :)
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I've got a cool one in the works, but had a delay on my end and so will only be able to take pre-orders at the summer festival and won't have the actual product yet. :(
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Will we be able to purchase them online and have them shipped? It doesn't look like I'll be able to attend the Summer Freedom Festival. :'(
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Ya, I have a paypal account that I'll make available. Can't take credit cards with it, so it'll have to be a balance or a bank payment.
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Jared,
Once the shirt is designed can you post some pics and can I just send you FRN's?
Thanks
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any word on these, ~W~
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The word is "soon". ;D
p.s. really!