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Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Topic started by: John Corry on February 14, 2006, 07:51:14 PM

Title: hi y'all
Post by: John Corry on February 14, 2006, 07:51:14 PM: I just wanted to introduce myself and let y'all know I'm here.

I read Molon Labe a few weeks ago and at the end was just...inspired, or something. I mean, why couldn't it work? Really, it's just a matter of numbers. Somehow, I have to believe there are enough sick and tired, fed up, wanting-to-be-free Americans out there who would be willing to make the kind of lifestyle change we're talking about to pull it off.

I figure all I can do is be one myself. Then I start talking to my wife about it all and we are having a hard time getting past how cold it is, how deep the snow gets and how cold it gets. :'(

I'll keep working on her. Unfortunately, the way current events are, the direction the world is going in is helping me to make a case.

The Republicans have totally abandoned me on issues I thought were important (smaller gov't, less debt, less spending, more personal freedoms) and their slide into statism has had me thinking about this stuff more than at any other time in my life. This closer self-examination has sort of revealed to me my own 'libertarian' ideals (if that's what it means to just wnat the gov to leave me alone, take as little of my $$ as necessary and quit interfering in the lives of people here in our country or nations abroad). It's been a really wonderful ride and I am excited to see where it leads (unless the future includes ATF tear gas cannisters crashing through my windows in the middle of the night :o).

Anyway, I am currently in flight school, working toward my commercial/instructor certificates and enough experience to get a flying job. We moved to Georgia from Hawaii last year, wanting to be closer to family and to 'cash out' on our home there (the way things have gone, we would've made GOBS more money by waiting another year to sell...but hey, can't think like that can we?).

It'll be about 18-24 months before I have enough experience to realisitically hope to fly anything for anyone. We know we hate it here and want to leave. Carie is from NM and we really want to be out west, near mountains...so maybe there's a place for us in WY. I know that all of the charter/air freight/corporate flight dept. companies will be getting my resume and follow-up calls as soon as I'm qualified.

Any FSW members need a pilot, by chance? :)

Ironically, about the time I started reading Molon Labe, I also discovered the RWVA and bought my first battle rifle (a beautiful SA M1A with a bunch of mags and a big box of mil-surp ammo!!). I have been to the range with my rifle a few times and am looking forward to the RWVA Appleseed Clinic at the Ramseur, NC range next weekend! I'll try to take some pictures to share with y'all.

That's my story, I look forward to getting to know you all and am really glad you're here. You can join me in praying for an opportunity to take our next step into Wyoming.
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Boston on February 14, 2006, 08:55:22 PM: neoncowboy, thanks for this post (and for your high praise of ML on TCF).

Yes, it's really a matter of #s. The formula works: e.g. all those poor states infested by outside liberals.

The worse things get nationally, the more brightly Wyoming (etc.) will shine. An organized mega-scenario outlined in my novel is a stretch, but not even that is required for many of us to only increase our own respective freedoms, but also increase the freedom of Wyoming as well.

You mentioned in passing the cold and snow.
Quite exaggerated, really. It's not Alaska or Minnesota.
And there are some rather temperate parts, too.
The NE corner has very mild winters (for the Rocky Mtns).

Yes, we'll need pilots!
Wyoming is the 9th largest state...

Keep in touch with us, and we hope to see you here in a couple of years.

Boston
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Hunter on February 20, 2006, 09:47:45 PM: It's cold and snowy in Wyoming? Ya got to be kidding!
Wind? what wind? :D ;D
Guess who?
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Paul Bonneau on February 21, 2006, 08:57:15 AM: Quote
I figure all I can do is be one myself. Then I start talking to my wife about it all and we are having a hard time getting past how cold it is, how deep the snow gets and how cold it gets.

I too have this issue with my wife, who grew up in Hong Kong. :P

A few points about that.

1) The winters are balanced by the wonderful summers in Wyoming, which does not get so blasted hot and humid as so many places in the country.

2) You get used to the winters, to a large extent. Humans are adaptable. Wyoming ain't Wisconsin! (where I grew up)

3) There is this high-tech item called "clothes". Invest in some good ones. :) There are also nice things like electric blankets; I tend not to have them on while in bed, but like to turn them on before getting into bed to warm it up. We also warm two rocks on the wood stove, wrap them in towels and put them in bed by our feet. Ummm, toasty! :D

4) Winters don't matter much when you are inside the house or at your work (unless you work outside). What percentage of the time do you spend outside, after all? For that small percentage, see item 3 above. Winter is a matter of heating fuel bills, more than it is of being cold.

5) You can garage your car to keep things a little warmer, use block heaters, etc.

6) Winters are also good at helping keep the bug population reasonable, I think.

7) By the way there ain't that much snow in many parts of Wyoming; take a look at Cody (http://www.codywy.org/webcam_main.htm) for example.

8 ) If you are retired, you can always be a "snow bird".

9) Nothing prettier than snow on the mountains, something you won't find in Mississippi. (view out our front door)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Zxcv12003/4802be9d.jpg)

When looking for homes, look with winter in mind. Traditionally (as far as I can see) Wyoming folks have put their homes in sheltered places. Lately it seems a few people have taken to sticking them on top of ridges (someone once called that "a wart on God's nose", or something to that effect) which has to double the fuel bills...

"No house should ever be on a hill or on anything. It should be of the hill. Belonging to it. Hill and house should live together each the happier for the other."
-- Frank Lloyd Wright
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: John Corry on February 21, 2006, 09:57:44 AM: Thanks for that! I have been looking at the map and notice 2 communities that are particularly interesting:

Cheyenne is a reasonable commute to Denver and right out in front of the mountains! My wife, while hating freezing cold, desperately wants our next home to be in the mountains out west (how's that for fickle?). I will be working as a pilot, probably on call a good bit of time. I could reasonably live in or near Cheyenne and get to Centennial, Jeffco or Front Range airports within an hour or so. That's pretty encouraging!

Then there's Evanston, which looks to be a reasonable commute to SLC (assuming one can make it over the pass).

Cheyenne especially is within pretty quick range of Greely and Longmont...in-laws present in both of those locales.

I'll bet Cheyenne attracts the kinds of folks who make use of corporate/personal aircraft...and thus will need to hire me to fly them around.

OK...I know where to look when the time comes.

Thanks! Awesome photo Paul...breathtaking view! I want one of those!
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Paul Bonneau on February 21, 2006, 11:24:37 AM: Well, Cheyenne isn't exactly in the mountains. :) It's out in the prairie.

Here's a thread about Wyoming weather:
http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=18.0

Actually, while Cheyenne is not known as the warmest spot in Wyoming, Torrington, pretty nearby, is more so.
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: John Corry on February 21, 2006, 12:16:32 PM: Hm, looks like decent sized mountains about 30mi WSW of Cheyenne.

I guess I should have said 'convenient to' Cheyenee rather than 'in' Cheyenne.

I'm more of a rural dweller myself: I like being somewhat close to groceries, cafe's, etc...but out a ways where there's peace, quiet, privacy and natural beauty to be enjoyed in solitude.

Pretty typical of most folks around here, it sounds like.
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: archy on March 15, 2006, 01:36:42 PM: Quote from: neoncowboy on February 14, 2006, 07:51:14 PM
Anyway, I am currently in flight school, working toward my commercial/instructor certificates and enough experience to get a flying job. We moved to Georgia from Hawaii last year, wanting to be closer to family and to 'cash out' on our home there (the way things have gone, we would've made GOBS more money by waiting another year to sell...but hey, can't think like that can we?).

It'll be about 18-24 months before I have enough experience to realisitically hope to fly anything for anyone. We know we hate it here and want to leave. Carie is from NM and we really want to be out west, near mountains...so maybe there's a place for us in WY. I know that all of the charter/air freight/corporate flight dept. companies will be getting my resume and follow-up calls as soon as I'm qualified.

Any FSW members need a pilot, by chance? :)

I'm a former NorthWurst ramprat, ground security coordinator [pre-09/11!] and A&P trainee. Expect you'll have to build LOTS of hours, but Wyoming isn't a bad place to do it.

Just out of curiousity, do you happen to know anything about these folks? http://www.afia.com/handp.html You might want to at least check 'em out, though low-timers is not really what they're looking for.
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Sgt.Slappy on March 24, 2006, 04:19:49 PM: Hello everyone!

I'm new here myself. I do slightly know neoncowboy though... we met at a RWVA event. I share many of the same sentiments that he does about the current state of things in this country. PA (where I live) keeps teetering on the edge... it's way too close to Jersey, and sooner or later it may end up just like that "utopian paradise". I need to get away while I can! I would also like to move to Wyoming... It's an awfully far move for me though. I'm not married, single in fact, and many of you would say - "well there you go: perfect opportunity for a single guy!" Not really. No job prospects, no idea of where to even begin to look for a place to live... and no support network of family or friends. I'm a self-sufficient, do-it-yourself type guy, but this sort of move is going to be more than I can manage all by my lonesome. I hope by reading through this forum, and asking the right questions, I can point myself in the right direction.

How do the opportunities look out there, for an electrician?
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Paul Bonneau on March 24, 2006, 04:33:54 PM: Geez, Slappy, are you kidding? :) If I were in your shoes I'd be in my car tomorrow. Wyoming is in a boom, including construction boom. Might as well take advantage of it! Just aim for Gillette (or even better, Crook County if you can handle little towns and the Gillette commute) and start there. Live in your truck like everyone else does :D From your base there you can look around and see where you want to settle next, if you still have the itch to move. You have to like the prairie though - Gillette is smack in the middle of it. Like a rolling ocean, but green...

Look around this board, there are lots of pointers to jobs and such. That's what we're here for!

I never understood why so many people make a big deal about moves, but I guess that's because I've moved many times, including multiple moves cross country and even a bit in Europe, so I'm pretty used to it. The trick is to look at it as an opportunity rather than a pain. An opportunity to get out of your rut, to dump stuff you don't need, etc. An adventure.
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: John Corry on March 24, 2006, 07:21:56 PM: Quote from: archy on March 15, 2006, 01:36:42 PM
Expect you'll have to build LOTS of hours, but Wyoming isn't a bad place to do it.

The way it's looking, I will be able to work for a year or 2 here before we move. That's good, since I have a GREAT job and good opportunities for building experience here.

I'm planning to work here until I have some solid part 135 experience under my belt, then start pestering a few companies and flight departments in WY for a job.

One thing I learned from our move to Georgia: have a job you are moving to! There are a couple of companies in WY that look promising for me...so we'll see.
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: John Corry on March 24, 2006, 07:23:10 PM: Quote from: Paul Bonneau on March 24, 2006, 04:33:54 PM
Geez, Slappy, are you kidding? :) If I were in your shoes I'd be in my car tomorrow.

I know...that's what I told him.

Gas money + about $500 and I'd be on my way (If I were single, of course).
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: appaloosablue on March 24, 2006, 08:58:30 PM: Quote
How do the opportunities look out there, for an electrician?

I did the leg work for my electrician husband and would be more than willing to share some leads.? With one day of faxing resumes to 3 electrical contractors he was phone interviewed by 2 and formally offered a job by one in the span of 4 days.

Browning Electric? phone# 307-689-5163? fax#307-685-6587
Intermountain Electric? phone#307-362-1417? fax#307-362-1453(Rock Springs, big outfit with 5 location, benefits)
Boyle Electric? phone#307-332-8139? fax#307-332-1535(Landers, talk with Michelle, benefits)*desparetly looking to hire--turning away work
Kalcon Electric? phone#307-745-9650? fax#307-745-6368(Laramie, fax resume Attn: Buz)
*Electricians of all skill levels needed for industrial project in Wyoming.? Contact Dennis at 307-371-0040"--this was in the Cheyenne newspaper.

In less than 5 days my husband was offered a job.? So our family(he will go up now) will be relocating as soon as our house sells.? This will include 6 kids, 4 horses, 2 dogs, 1 cat and 1 wife that may need a valium when all is said and done. :D
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Sgt.Slappy on March 24, 2006, 10:42:25 PM: Wow, thanks for the info! You rock!? ;)

I won't be able to move until I successfully "de-crap-ify" (I mean my stuff, not me)...? :D We'll see, soon enough!
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Daveasxx on March 24, 2006, 10:52:22 PM: Quote
How do the opportunities look out there, for an electrician?

Are you kidding me!?! I'm sure that you already know that an electrician is the highest paid profession that doesn't require a degree. It pays more than most degreed professions. I'm an aviation electrician (electro-mechanical really) in the Navy. Any mine will be wanting your services!!!! Any power company will beg for you to work for them!! There are many in Wyoming. Coal, wind power, oil, nuclear... Your services are PRIME!!!! for Wyoming! Just move! Electricians are in high demand everywhere!

Dave
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: RazorCityRifleman on March 25, 2006, 06:07:29 AM: Howdy folks.

I've lived in WY for over 15 years and have been self-employed for 13 of those in good times and bad. I'm a residencial/light commercial general contractor and live in Campbell County. I have a fair amount of 'contacts' and may be of some help if your serious about relocating. If any of you need a hand let me know I'll see what I can do to help out. There are currently dozens of jobs available in Campbell county and surounding area in most any of the skilled trades. No better time to sink roots than now.

RCR
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: wyomiles on March 26, 2006, 09:48:42 AM: Hay Sgt. Slappy there are also a few electrical jobs posted at americas job bank. http://www.jobsearch.org/seeker/jobsearch/quick
I just select search all jobs in zip code and then select Wyoming .
Miles
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Sgt.Slappy on March 27, 2006, 07:50:08 PM: I appreciate the replies (hey, wasn't this neoncowboy's thread anyway? ;) ) I want to check out those other employers, or any others that come up, but one thing stands in my way... where the heck do I want to live in your great state?!? I can get a job, I'm sure... but can I get one in a place I'll actually be able to live?

I can't afford to buy a house there yet, something I would be able to swing (as I'm a bachelor) would maybe be along the lines of a (very) small piece of (rented or purchased?) land with a steel building (Something like this: http://www.usbuildingsdirect.com/index.html) which I would use as my workshop/dwelling or a small trailer with another small outbuilding (maybe a shipping container) for storage. I'm not going to "live out of my truck" through a winter there... no way! Besides, I am making this move permanent. A house or larger property will have to come later after I save my money, and probably get myself a wife (...and there goes the money :D ). Lining up a good job is my 1st step.

I'm looking to actually fly out there sometime soon. I'll rent a car and look around for a week. Talk to employers, look at property, etc. I have only been a renter in the past, so this will be a new experience, if anyone has any tips about getting a small homestead set up, I would appreciate the input on that as well.

I checked that job listing, wyomiles, and there is an opening in Casper, working for the Department of Energy as a journeyman, it sounds good. Is there anyone who can tell me more about Casper? Is it a good place to live? Windy, colder than the rest of the state, crime, etc. There is also a job up in Gillette working for Kennecott Energy (good pay), which I actually meet the requirements as well (other than having serviced mine equipment). Anyone know anything about them? Or Gillette?

Sorry for all the questions, folks, I want to get this moving along as soon as possible. I want to be a resident no later than September of this year!? ;)
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: John Corry on March 27, 2006, 07:54:38 PM: Sgt. Slappy and I camped at an Appleseed Rifleman's Clinic at the RWVA home range in NC a few weeks ago...he's good people.

Y'all will do well to get him out there and start his 'debriefing' process after a lifetime in NJ/PA.
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Boston on March 27, 2006, 08:25:29 PM: Sgt. Slappy, welcome to our forum, and thanks for your posts.
The forum has a Welcome Wagon section, with subsections based on areas/cities.
E.g., we've locals in Casper, Gillette, etc.
Get in touch with those folks there (and in person) for more local info.
FSWers are a very helpful and generous lot, and you'll have a good
base of support for your Wyoming move.

See you out here this year!
Boston
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Paul Bonneau on March 27, 2006, 08:46:26 PM: Quote
there is an opening in Casper, working for the Department of Energy as a journeyman, it sounds good

Surely you can find a job other than working for government, can't you? This is after all the Free State Wyoming forum. We're not here to help people find government jobs. Hate to throw a wet blanket on you, but Geez... :(
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Sgt.Slappy on March 28, 2006, 10:53:30 AM: Perhaps I'm giving the wong impression here... I'm looking at the pay on that particular job. I would have no problem with any of the other jobs listed, they all seem to average about $18 hr. or so. For a 40 hour work-week ($720 a week - $2,880 a month), do you think I could live on a wage like that, and afford to rent (a lot, a trailer, a farm building, etc) and food? That is what I'm looking at. My intention is not to be a lackey for the state... guide my hand, don't slap it away...

I guess I should elaborate a little. I'm not coming out to Wyoming with the expectation that I can bend it to my will. I want to come out to Wyoming to add to it, make it stronger, and become a good neighbor - and one of the good people[/i] out there I've heard so much about. If you have any suggestions about where my time would be better spent looking for employment, I'm all ears. Who is a good person to work for? I've found asking is always more productive than "cold-calling".

Perhaps once I get things "more in order" ( the many years-worth of crap I'm getting rid of!) out this way, next month, instead of flying out there to look around, maybe I'll just drive out there in my truck with my hand tools and camping gear, work on a trial basis, and secure some type of place to live for when I bring the bulk of my gear out later. I've got a decent amount of gear that shouldn't be left behind... tools & equipment, reference manuals, supplies, etc. I need a place to stow it once I get out there. Would it be realistic to? hope to find someone willing to rent a trailer or building to me, that I could store goods and live in?
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Paul Bonneau on March 28, 2006, 10:10:26 PM: Sorry to be an old grump, Slappy. It's just that I've been in this free state thing for a few years, and I'm still amazed that some folks want to move to freedom, then work for government. ::) Don't understand that, period. Glad you're not talking about that.

Cold calling probably works fine around Gillette and a few other places, at least at the moment. If someone can't hire you, they'll know someone else who will.

I bet you could find someone to store your stuff, if you paid a nominal amount, and living arrangements are probably possible too (except it won't be easy around employment hot spots like Gillette, might have to commute a bit). There's a whole lot of that going on around the little town of Wapiti where we are ending up - folks know other folks, rent space or living arrangements quite easily and simply. And there is no shortage of space in Wyoming, ha ha. About the only thing I'd warn you about is rodent damage, but that goes on everywhere I guess. Actually storage probably is not as hard on gear there as where I live in western Oregon; if you store electronics out in a garage it is about ruined in a winter or two due to the humidity and corrosion. Not much of that in Wyoming.
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: John on March 28, 2006, 10:28:51 PM: How to find jobs? Classifieds, classifieds, classifieds. If someone is forking out bucks every week for an ad, they are serious about needing to hire someone.

Cold calling? As in randomly calling businesses asking them to hire you? Hmmm..., never done that one. Seems like it'd be pretty time consuming.

Boy, if you're a single guy and can't live on $700/week, you may want to sit down and have a budgeting session! Nah, it's not for me to judge, but I mean, that seems like a good wage to me.
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Sgt.Slappy on March 28, 2006, 11:06:46 PM: Hey! I have an idea! I'll see if I can time my journey properly to come on up your way for the FSW Jamboree in Worland! Heck, that would rule!. Long drive though... After the Jam, use that time to meet with employers! Hmmmmm..... this might work out! Me, my truck, and my Garand... 8)

Here's a question though. How is the FSW movement regarded by others (the normal people, not the libs) in WY? For example, if asked why I'm moving, by a prospective employer... would they run in the opposite direction if I mentioned FSW?
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Shawn on March 29, 2006, 01:15:45 AM: Slappy, there's been some talk abt local paleo-cons distrusting libertarians.? I've only told my prospective employers that being originally from Colorado, I've always wanted to make a move north from NM. I decided keep it simple and honest, whilst sticking to a benign explanation for relocation.? Once acquainted with a like-minded individual you'll know when to start agreeing w/them ;)
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: RazorCityRifleman on March 29, 2006, 05:27:56 AM: Sgt Slappy,

I'm a General Contractor (eqipment, crew, licence, bond et' all) in Campbell County (Gillette) so I can't speak with any no bullshit authority on the other counties, but in Campbell 'cold calling' will probably work just fine since any of the outfits that would make a good wage job are hiring. There are electritions needed in both the energy industry and comercial/residencial construction right now. Folks are getting ramped up for a good building season this year and the electritions I have working on my projects are busy, busy and all looking for help.

Call the employment resource center for the area you are intrested in and ask about electrition jobs, the folks will let you know what they have available or just get yourself a phone book and start down the list. Your best bet would be to just show up in the area you want to work and go chat these folks up in person.

Show up clean cut and dressed like your ready to go to work, look em' in the eye and tell them what you know, don't burdan them with a bunch of prersonal BS. Political doctrine is considered 'personal' in WY. Folks here hire folks to solve problems not to have them bring a bunch of personal drama to thier job site.

RCR
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Boston on March 29, 2006, 11:40:04 AM: Sgt. Slappy, timing your visit for the Jam make the best sense.
Personally, I wouldn't do it any other way.

Quote
Here's a question though. How is the FSW movement regarded by others (the normal people, not the libs) in WY? For example, if asked why I'm moving, by a prospective employer... would they run in the opposite direction if I mentioned FSW?

I see no point in mentioning to a prospective employer anything
about your politics, the FSW, gun ownership, etc. Sell yourself
first, and then the rest later if need be.

The mind abhors a vacuum, and some people just cannot believe
that we have no secret or ulterior plans within the FSW, and thus
may want to "color in" that space with their own fears (i.e., that
we're some cult or pack of troublemakers).

When there are more of us actually in Wyoming who have gained
the locals' trust and respect, then outting ourselves as FSWers will
be to our gain. But not before that. If new to Wyoming, you're an
unknown quantity. Why add another one (the FSW) to the mix?

We must prove ourselves first.
Then, the FSW will have nothing to prove at all.

Boston[/color]
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Nickle on March 29, 2006, 11:55:46 AM: Boston, thanks for the invite over here.

For record, I'm REAL interested, since Vermont is starting to turn slightly Liberal. I've got to wait at least 4 1/2 years, but that's because I want to take my Retirement from Uncle (.mil, not .gov) then, and it's a decent retirement package.

What's the prospects for a Gun Dealer/Smith and Ammo Manufacturer out there?

I saw another thread saying there's lots of FFL's in Wyoming. I specialize, so, I'm thinking it won't be too bad.
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: biathlon on March 29, 2006, 02:07:08 PM: Sgt. Slappy, you need to get your a-- here NOW!!! I'm a licensed wyoming master electrician and would be happy to help you get licensed. Ther'es work everywhere. Neoncowboy, my wife had the same attitude about the snow and the cold till she realized it was an ideal excuse to BUY a WHOLE NEW WARDROBE! She now loves to ski. You may want to look at Laramie, we live here and love it. b
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: Hunter on March 29, 2006, 02:45:38 PM: Slappy,

Disregard the man behind the curtain, come on out, take the job with whoever doing whatever. it really doesn't make a diff. It'll get ya here and established. Keep the hard right politics to yerself untill your in and accepted. Idealisim and purisim's nice, but it don't pay the bills, don't feed ya or do anything else for ya unless ya, that is unless ya already got the $ bucks. Ya gotta do whut ya gotta do! Cusz ain't nobody else is gonna do it fer ya, eh?
Live in Casper, put a camper on a lot in Crook and make it yer legal residence for voting. Quite simple really, eh?? Besides, there's tax bennies in doing that too ::) Looks like a Win-Win ta me!? ;D

Get er done bro, get er done!!!
;D ;D ;D :o :P
Title: Re: hi y'all
Post by: John on March 29, 2006, 11:46:53 PM: Quote
How is the FSW movement regarded by others (the normal people, not the libs) in WY?

They haven't heard of it. Actualy a surprising number have heard of the FSP, however. There's been a number of people that I have gotten around to telling about why I moved to Wyoming and they said "Didn't they choose New Hampshire?" "Yeah, well, we're Libertarians," I answer. I mean, who are we to abide the results of a vote? Ha!

And hey Hunter, you've got to pick a smiley and stick with it! What emotion does the triple-laugh-yikes-tongue convey?

Just kidding! :P