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Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties => Topic started by: mattdeminico on May 20, 2010, 08:47:32 AM
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I've been browsing around for a while, didn't get around to registering until just now. I was looking on the main site (the main www.freestatewyoming.org site) and it looks like the group is dead from that page (last event is like 2007, last update is around 2008?)
But obviously the forums are alive and kicking... I'm wondering... I'm a person who believes "If one state gave the Federal Government a big middle finger and said 'anything outside Article 1 Section 8 is void within our borders', I'd move there in a second", I have a feeling that there are a ton of other people out there just like me (I happen upon them by chance without even looking, trust me, they're out there). But they come across the main website and think "oh, that must not be going on anymore, I guess I shouldn't bother..."
That being said, is there any interest in putting together a group of five or ten folks from on here to pre-write some blog updates for the main page? Basically, my thought is if a page has a weekly update, people will come back once a week or so to check on it. If you have daily updates but don't keep up on them, people stop coming... So I say shoot for a weekly update, if we pre-write 30 or 40 posts, and then add in additional "events" posts as new things happen throughout the year, we've got a whole year covered.
I'm thinking just stuff like stories about your daily life, trips, photo journals of trips, possibly a good video about Wyoming, etc... And then events Could be anything, a picnic, a Tea Party, whatever...
Anyone have any thoughts on this? I'd be willing to help out, though I'm currently living in an area that has 10 times the population in just the Detroit Metro area, as Wyoming has in the entire state. Heck, the population of what would be my congressional district if I were "allowed" to run (asinine Hatch Act, not getting into it here...) is about the same as the population of the entire state of Wyoming... I love it!!
Honestly, I'd love to see this happen... my thought is all this Federal Government BS would end right quick if one state just stood up and said that anything outside Article 1 Section 8 is null and void, and that the citizens of that state are not going to pay for any part of those programs. The president wouldn't have the balls to send in the military, and even if he tried, no military commander is going to obey that order to invade another state to enforce blatantly unconstitutional federal laws. If they did, then we'd know just what kind of problem we have on our hands, in that a group of people are no longer allowed to choose to live free... But that worst case is incredibly unlikely to happen regardless.
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It's a lot easier to follow in the footsteps of others than to make your own isnt it?
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Matt,
What you describe is a long continuing problem. It's been suggested over and over and over. Nothing ever gets done. We don't have anyone dedicated to maintaining it. It just kinda goes and goes. Everybody (?) agrees it would be beneficial to keep it updated, but nothing happens.
As you said, our forum is quite active.
Mac
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Howdy Matt, glad you found the real action here at the forum.
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It's a lot easier to follow in the footsteps of others than to make your own isnt it?
Not sure how I'm supposed to take that reply... but...
Anyhow, I'd be willing to head it up, I've done it for my own personal business, for others businesses, and for election campaigns for friends of mine, though I don't have a whole lot of the content myself, having never even visited Wyoming to this point yet. I don't care *where* freedom happens (though I'm preferenced towards the west), I just want to make it happen.
I don't even know how many people we have active, but seriously, five people could easily put together a few stories, photo journals, or blog posts, and I could organize them on the front page, just post-date them, so they show up automatically for months to come. Over those months, the same (or other) people can write more stories, find more videos that were already produced, whatever, and we'd add those to the blog post-dated as well. There would be like 30 posts on the blog, but they wouldn't show up to the public until the date they're scheduled to be published.
Like I said, I could organize it, it wouldn't take a whole lot of time once the content is there, and I could probably find some content myself. It wouldn't have to be Wyoming specific, it could be like this great video I just saw on PJTV today by Bill Whittle, absolutely incredible: http://www.pjtv.com/v/3608
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Matt, thanks for your ideas and willingness to help.
Last year I implemented some of this, but without much subsequent addition from FSWers.
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from Mac:
Matt,
What you describe is a long continuing problem. It's been suggested over and over and over. Nothing ever gets done. We don't have anyone dedicated to maintaining it. It just kinda goes and goes. Everybody (?) agrees it would be beneficial to keep it updated, but nothing happens.
O......K......, again, let me say once more what I've been saying for at least two years now:
Neither I nor our webmistress Lady Liberty are responsible for creating new FSW-type content.
FSWers are responsible for new content.
I will, with LL's help, make sure that such is accessible through www.freestatewyoming.org page.
And, we've done some of this.
Since February 2009, there have been three forum thread links on our FSW.org homepage.
Here's is an overview of what's been contributed there since 2/2009:
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FSW website link to "FSW members explain: Why I moved to Wyoming!"
http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=3408.0
Since this was linked to FSW.org over a year ago, just 2 people have posted their "Why":
MacAaron, and Kelly.
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What makes a "Wyoming person"?
http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=4999.msg36335#msg36335
Just three weeks of activity there, and the last post was on September 23, 2007.
None of them, btw, really expanded on the theme.
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FSW website link to "Free State Wyoming Blogs"
This was added by February 17, 2009, as I posted in:
http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=3863.msg59405#msg59405
Only 4 FSWers have created a blog (Mac, MamaLiberty, Brandy, and Erik),
and not one since I linked the thread to FSW.org.
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Also, these boards/subboards are readable by the general public without forum registration:
Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties
Welcome to Free State Wyoming (FSW)
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
Prospective Free State Wyoming (FSW) Members and Interested Parties
Free State Wyoming (FSW) Promotional
Making the Case for Moving Toward Freedom (and Wyoming!)
Marketing and Media Coverage of Free State Wyoming (FSW)
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If you all can think of new threads to link to our website, post or PM me at once!
But until I see some regular contributions to the three threads that are linked,
please understand why I do not presently see myself as the bottleneck to FSW.org news.
LL can fine-tune the site for it to reflect more currently, but there is no point in
that without fresh content. That is up to you all.
Thanks,
Boston
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Hey Boston, thanks for the update on that. Being a quasi-web guy myself, I'd suggest just taking the "announcements" portion of the main page, and turning it into a blog. It may already be a blog, just titled announcements, I dunno.
Do you have an idea of how many people there are participating on the FSW forums, and how many others are out there who could be convinced to at least write something (or take pictures, or video?), and have someone else put it into digital format? I have no clue how many people are involved so that one would have to be on you...
I know a billion people, but if I had to put together an article a week, I can count on probably two hands the number of people that I could rely on to supply me with one well written story, some good pictures with a few words, or a video, on a regular basis.
That being said, do you have a few close folks you could count on that if you said "Hey, can you put together (or find) two or three stories, slideshows with words, or videos, for me to put on the FSW main page"? If you got 15 different posts, that'd last you almost to the end of the summer, and in the meantime, those same people (or others) could write and/or find others to add on. There's a ton of great things out there, we could literally just use what others have written or produced and just link to them. Look at a totally unrelated website www.crossfit.com that puts up the following: a picture, a workout, a video or two, and a quote or article for everyone to discuss in comments. They do that every day, and have done it for about 8 years now I think.
I guarantee you they use the same plan, they've got to have a backlog of a billion pictures and quotes to use, plus some videos and articles that come up in recent news, and just put 'em out when it fits.
Like I said, I'd be willing to help with this if we can get the content, and I can supply a boatload of articles or videos myself (the one I linked to earlier from PJTV would be great). Check out that video, maybe make that the first update in the blog section...
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My apologies to Seniortech, for not forwarding on his touching story at:
http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=7164.0
I've asked him to paste it into the thread "FSW members explain: Why I moved to Wyoming!"
so that it has his username rather than mine. I should have thought of that in March -- sorry, John!
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If your post fits into any of the below, please post it there directly and
it will be instantly in that FSW.org linkable thread.
FSW members explain: Why I moved to Wyoming!
http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=3408.0
What makes a "Wyoming person"?
http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=4999.msg36335#msg36335
Thanks,
Boston
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Matt, thanks for your ideas and willingness to help.
Last year I implemented some of this, but without much subsequent addition from FSWers.
Boston
Boston, reading through this thread I'm not sure if I took things the same way as you so I wanted to offer a point of clarification on how I took the comments.
I don't see that anyone is saying that they want you to do more, rather that they are offering to help so you don't have to do as much. Most of the comments seem to be saying that the page looks abandoned because it says things like "coming soon" that are well over a year old.
The events section could be done away with or put a live link straight to the forums events section.
The forums are where it's all at. I wish I had the knowledge of how to update things, as I have the time.... But it might be best to link everything on the home page over to the forums so when people come to the page they don't think that the FSW has been abandoned.
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http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=7164.0
Thanks,
Boston
Boston, that link gives the following error. "The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you."
just a heads up.
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Yeah, linking to the forums is ok for info, but it might be best to just cut and paste info from the forums and throw it right on the main page. A lot of folks out there aren't interested in forums, or reading them, but they'll read a "news article" on the main page.
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(http://www.clickonf5.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/blog_blog_forum.gif)
Here's an article that describes how to show forum feeds onto a blog. (http://www.clickonf5.org/google/how-show-latest-posts-other-forum-feed-blog/4813)
Terence
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http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=7164.0
Thanks,
Boston
Boston, that link gives the following error. "The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you."
just a heads up.
Hmmmm.. worked for me OK? Maybe Boston fixed something in the mean time?
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http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=7164.0
Thanks,
Boston
Boston, that link gives the following error. "The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you."
just a heads up.
Hmmmm.. worked for me OK? Maybe Boston fixed something in the mean time?
You must have a different forum access level then I. I just tried it again and no such luck. ???
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You must have a different forum access level then I. I just tried it again and no such luck. ???
He does.
Heck, the population of what would be my congressional district if I were "allowed" to run (asinine Hatch Act, not getting into it here...) is about the same as the population of the entire state of Wyoming.
So is the population of everyone else's Congressional district. It's no coincidence. They couldn't give half a representative to the least-populous state, see. ;)
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Regarding the automatic refreshing of the website, IIRC, there was/is? some
kind of technical snag in doing so according to Lady Liberty. I'll revisit that
admin thread and see if I can slice the Gordian Knot.
If the process can be automated without too much work by our volunteer webmistress,
that'd be ideal. She's very busy with paying work elsewhere.
The older year dates, I agree, should be refreshed.
I'll work on that next week.
Nevertheless, if all that's done, it still doesn't solve the problem of dribbling FSWer submissions.
Of the three forum links, at least one of them should suffice for new material!
Start producing it, and you'll reinvigorate me in sprucing up the website. ;)
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The thread:
SUBMIT your FSW website content here!
http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=7164.0
is in the "FSW Member and Associate general discussion" board.
I figured that only they should be allowed to offer FSW website content.
Sorry, Stratispho, for the confusion there.
Boston
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Sorry, Stratispho, for the confusion there.
Boston
Makes sense. I'll be a real FSW'er one day... as soon as I can get my wife up there (summer of 2011 is planned) and have her realize it's gorgeous and not a barren wasteland/iceland
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Sorry, Stratispho, for the confusion there.
Boston
Makes sense. I'll be a real FSW'er one day... as soon as I can get my wife up there (summer of 2011 is planned) and have her realize it's gorgeous and not a barren wasteland/iceland
One of the keys to sales is to under promise and over deliver. You undoubtedly face a sales job with your wife and quite frankly, much of Wyoming is pretty barren and there is a lot of wasteland. Do some real research in advance and plan carefully.
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Much depends on one's definition of "wasteland," etc.
For some, the vast grasslands are "wastelands" and our beautiful forests are "scrubby."
My niece came to visit last week. There are more people in the city where she lives than in all of Wyoming. I suspect she won't be coming back soon. She likes LOTS of people.
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Much depends on one's definition of "wasteland," etc.
For some, the vast grasslands are "wastelands" and our beautiful forests are "scrubby."
My niece came to visit last week. There are more people in the city where she lives than in all of Wyoming. I suspect she won't be coming back soon. She likes LOTS of people.
Only thing about the "rural city" I dig here in Michigan is the folks drive like they've got somewhere to be. I like LOTS of room to drive. The speed being dictated by the traffic, weather, and road conditions :) Actually I don't drive all that fast, but am just annoyed when I go to a "slow pace lifestyle" area where folks are driving 45 in a 50 zone, and can't pass them. If I can pass 'em somewhere, I'll be just fine in Wyoming :)
And on another note, Boston, I'll start writing an article similar to my post here: http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=9481.msg85575#msg85575
Basically just a short writeup on how folks today are hamstrung because of debt, not because it's all that expensive to live like they think. I'll write an article, could be a blog post at first, and then linked to in the FAQ or something down the road if you wanted, or even put in a "don't think you could leave your job for a new life of freedom" headline or something...
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I like LOTS of room to drive. The speed being dictated by the traffic, weather, and road conditions :) Actually I don't drive all that fast, but am just annoyed when I go to a "slow pace lifestyle" area where folks are driving 45 in a 50 zone, and can't pass them. If I can pass 'em somewhere, I'll be just fine in Wyoming :)
We are generally not in a big hurry here. We watch and hit the brake for deer, antelope and other critters. Not much traffic on the highways, but some rural roads are rough and might have herds of cattle that must be waited for, or side by side ranch trucks with the guys shooting the breeze for a moment.
You may learn to enjoy the slower pace out here. But there's probably enough room to pass us by most of the time. Just slow down at dawn and twilight a little more. Hitting a deer or antelope can do serious damage to your travel time, not to mention your vehicle. :)
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I like LOTS of room to drive. The speed being dictated by the traffic, weather, and road conditions :) Actually I don't drive all that fast, but am just annoyed when I go to a "slow pace lifestyle" area where folks are driving 45 in a 50 zone, and can't pass them. If I can pass 'em somewhere, I'll be just fine in Wyoming :)
We are generally not in a big hurry here. We watch and hit the brake for deer, antelope and other critters. Not much traffic on the highways, but some rural roads are rough and might have herds of cattle that must be waited for, or side by side ranch trucks with the guys shooting the breeze for a moment.
You may learn to enjoy the slower pace out here. But there's probably enough room to pass us by most of the time. Just slow down at dawn and twilight a little more. Hitting a deer or antelope can do serious damage to your travel time, not to mention your vehicle. :)
I've done my share of night time driving in Michigan, deer litter the roads here, probably not as much wildlife as in Wyoming still, but driving in the Upper Peninsula at night is a whole new experience... Regardless, yeah, when the sun starts to go down, the speeds typically come down regardless of what speed I was going before. Limit here is 70, when I had sports cars, I'd routinely drive 80 in the day, and drop it down to 70 at night. Though I'd be comfortable regularly driving 95+ on the roads here in a sports car, the cops think that's dangerous despite nobody else being on the road, so to avoid ever getting a speeding ticket (zero so far), I didn't...
Anyhow, regardless, still sounds like a fun place, I prefer to see beat up roads, dirt and gravel, etc, it shows that people aren't holding a gun to citizens heads demanding money to pave roads that don't need to be paved. Nothing gets me more than seeing every single residential road here paved, it's so absurd... Millions of dollars to do that, just wasted, and taken right from our pockets.
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I read the opening post and agree completely.
I wondered if the FSW was dead so I emailed info@ and the message was bounced back as not receiveing messages. Then I forwarded that to the address for site mainanance and got no reply.
Glad I decided to check the Forum link!
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Good to hear someone talk about the roads. Roads are taken for granted as an integral part of your environment and life. There are paths and places. you are either going somewhere or there. One of the biggest things I missed about Wisconsin when I moved to New Hampshire were all the country roads that connected in WI. In NH, none of the country roads really connect.....they do, but not always at they are all curving, irregular and seemingly random. In WI, you have the gridded farm roads which are so easy and fun to navigate and ride.
I love old country roads like the dirt roads described in third post up or so. The wide open spaces in WY are wonderful. In NH, people are too slow and too nice on the road. One person will stop 20 cars and trucks on a highway to let another guy turn left in front of him. Its nerve racking. And there are an incredible amount of stop lights in Manchester and other cities. its unbelievable. They have a stop light at a major highway for a big box store and a private residential community.
There is more freedom in roads without so many cars and restrictive lights and limits.
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Welcome. Come visit Newcastle here in the NE. They have one corner with lights, but if they vanished I don't expect most people would notice. You might see a single vehicle on all four sides, but not often.
(http://thepriceofliberty.org/images/FSW/newcastle/downtown/spycamera2.jpg)
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I did not expect to see a camera in Newcastle ML, the net is getting wider!
PS. Why is this topic in this thread? ???
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I did not expect to see a camera in Newcastle ML, the net is getting wider!
PS. Why is this topic in this thread? ???
Not a camera. It's a retrofit thing to signal when someone comes into the intersection so the light changes. Folks were getting stuck there. :)
And I put that picture in to show Trenks what "rush hour" looks like in Newcastle. LOL
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So the intersections are alive and well as well! ;) Looking forward to traveling around the state visiting places like Newcastle. Is there another place besides this forum that FSW folks chat?
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So the intersections are alive and well as well! ;) Looking forward to traveling around the state visiting places like Newcastle. Is there another place besides this forum that FSW folks chat?
Occasional informal get togethers and the Jamboree. Most of us prefer face to face. :)
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I did not expect to see a camera in Newcastle ML, the net is getting wider!
PS. Why is this topic in this thread? ???
Not a camera. It's a retrofit thing to signal when someone comes into the intersection so the light changes. Folks were getting stuck there. :)
And I put that picture in to show Trenks what "rush hour" looks like in Newcastle. LOL
Actually, that IS a CCTV camera and can be used for motion detection.
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So the intersections are alive and well as well! ;) Looking forward to traveling around the state visiting places like Newcastle. Is there another place besides this forum that FSW folks chat?
Come visit us in Sundance.
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Actually, that IS a CCTV camera and can be used for motion detection.
Since there is only one, that doesn't seem likely. I've been told, by someone I trust, that it is NOT a camera. And that is quite an unlikely place for one anyway. Near the courthouse and post office would make more sense.
Probably wise to assume there are some here somewhere, of course, but I'm not going to worry about it.
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Actually, that IS a CCTV camera and can be used for motion detection.
Since there is only one, that doesn't seem likely. I've been told, by someone I trust, that it is NOT a camera. And that is quite an unlikely place for one anyway. Near the courthouse and post office would make more sense.
Probably wise to assume there are some here somewhere, of course, but I'm not going to worry about it.
That is the same system we had in Aurora and are popping up all over. That is a CCTV capable camera.
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Shotgun bait...
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Shotgun bait...
Maybe, at some point. If it is a camera, I can't imagine who's watching the pictures. Would be as boring as watching grass grow.
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Shotgun bait...
Maybe, at some point. If it is a camera, I can't imagine who's watching the pictures. Would be as boring as watching grass grow.
They are not meant to only be watched by a person, they are always being watched by a computer and video is archived.
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They are not meant to only be watched by a person, they are always being watched by a computer and video is archived.
Have it your way. :) I simply fail to see any point to it here. There's nothing to watch. :)
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They are not meant to only be watched by a person, they are always being watched by a computer and video is archived.
Have it your way. :) I simply fail to see any point to it here. There's nothing to watch. :)
I know what your saying, however, it's part of an automated tracking grid that records and archives movement of cars based on plate number.
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Cool, my plate is all letters! ;D
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There's nothing to watch.
Maybe somebody harvested some DHS grant money, and channelled it to his relative in the road maintenance business.
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There's nothing to watch.
Maybe somebody harvested some DHS grant money, and channelled it to his relative in the road maintenance business.
That would be quite possible. The silly "DHS" guy in the dusty blue pickup truck has to be given something to do, after all.
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When I lived in NV the local sheriff bragged about his car mounted camera and fancy software. He said he he could simply park along the highway or near the entrance to WalMart and the camera would capture all the license plate numbers and compare them to a database of warrants and suspects. This took seconds. Then he could take action. Nice.
So there IS a threat to these cameras. They can be used to prove where people have gone and exactly when.
Doesn't matter if it's in Newcastle or the London subway.
Mac
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We have one here in Pike County, IL. It is for signaling purposes only and is not tasked to take photos...
Regards, Danl
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I know what your saying, however, it's part of an automated tracking grid that records and archives movement of cars based on plate number.
Now I know why people leave their license plates caked with mud around here...
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Now I know why people leave their license plates caked with mud around here...
As if there was really much choice in the matter here... >:D Though I do get out and wipe off the headlights from time to time... :)