California vs. Wyoming

[elk]

Its not just Wyoming, or any place in general though, the world itself is a beautiful place, its just the overbreeding idiots and underbreeding intelligent folk that make it otherwise.

That's just my take.  Wyoming atm just has a bit more to offer than some states, but you all better keep from asking for momma or poppa guv's help, or you'll be even worse off than the rest of the country.

[MichaelNotMike]

.... Remember to leave ALL of CA in Kalifornia as we do not have any room for that crap here.

We will leave our "Van Nuys Ways" at the border!

[DarkSide]

We took nothing but photos and left nothing but brass.

Ummmm, can't have any littering in our lovely state.  Just tell me where you left this big pile of brass and I'll do the right thing and run police it up for you.   

[MichaelNotMike]

We took nothing but photos and left nothing but brass.

Ummmm, can't have any littering in our lovely state.  Just tell me where you left this big pile of brass and I'll do the right thing and run police it up for you.   

The big pile was in Casper at Poison Spider, but FAL_guy picked up all our .223, .308, .300, .45 and 9mm to reload.

We left about 60 rounds of .223 at the Hulett municipal range, but there was none on the ground, so it looks like someone picks it up regularly.

We shot about 400 rd .22 LR brass at Appleseed. It's at the range in Newcastle, lane on the end closest to the parking lot, if you reload that. 

MWD.

[DarkSide]

We shot about 400 rd .22 LR brass at Appleseed. It's at the range in Newcastle, lane on the end closest to the parking lot, if you reload that. 

Actually, now that you mention it, I'm currently rounding up the last of the tooling I need to make .223 bullets using expended .22 long rifle cases for the jackets and old wheel weight lead for the cores.  Close, but not there yet, so soon.  And you thought you were making a joke...   

[elk]

Be happy, in Virginia, it seems a lot of the auto places have agreements with lead recyclers to take up all their wheel weights.  No more "free lead" for us out here.

[MichaelNotMike]

Virginia is odd. I lived in Charlottesville and in Arlington, and had many more random run ins with cops than I've ever had in San Francisco and Los Angeles. But overall, Virginia seems a lot more free. (For instance, open carry is doable, and hunting isn't a "sin.")

MWD

[MamaLiberty]

Virginia is odd. I lived in Charlottesville and in Arlington, and had many more random run ins with cops than I've ever had in San Francisco and Los Angeles. But overall, Virginia seems a lot more free. (For instance, open carry is doable, and hunting isn't a "sin.")

MWD

Visit OpenCarry.org and read about all the fun those who OC in Virginia have with the cops... ongoing! Yes, it's "legal," but the cops don't have to LIKE it.   One guy has been arrested and rousted regularly for the sin of carrying while black... Imagine that, in Virginia.

[MichaelNotMike]

I've recently become active on that site, and dig it a lot (except they don't ban trolls).

From reading various things on OC.org, I've come to the conclusion that Wyoming is probably the best state to open carry in.

MWD

[MichaelNotMike]

Los Angeles Times headline today:

State will have to begin issuing IOUs next week, controller says
"If the budget crisis is not solved, county agencies, vendors and tax-refund recipients will receive warrants instead of checks, Controller John Chiang warns...."

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-budget25-2009jun25,0,1060005.story
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Casper Tribune headline today:

Wyoming leads nation in road projects

"JACKSON -- Wyoming has put to work some 94 percent of the $157.6 in stimulus money...."

http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2009/06/22/news/wyoming/458ac501a3598214872575dc00211589.txt

I think they mean $157.6 million dollars. Or maybe not. Maybe Wyoming only received 157 dollars and sixty cents of statist handout.

We concur with the George Carlin joke that "Wyoming doesn't exist" (to the rest of the country.) Which is part of why we're moving there.

We saw the lady on the weather channel last night giving the forecast for the rest of the Western mountain and plains states. She stood covering Wyoming on the map with her head while talking excitedly about weather while pointing at The Dakotas, Nebraska, Idaho, Colorado and Montana.

Since we decided to move we've noticed that Wyoming is almost never mentioned on national TV. Except on History Channel shows about the Old West, and Nat Geo shows about the geothermal makeup of Yellowstone.

May it take a long time for modern America to notice Wyoming is there.

MWD

[MamaLiberty]

Amen to that last!

 

[MichaelNotMike]

You know, I think we're moving just in time. That LA Times article says the State will start issuing IOUs to welfare recipients July 2:

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Without a budget solution, the controller expects next month to issue more than $3 billion in IOUs to some of the state's most vulnerable citizens. Those would include the aged, blind and disabled, college students who receive state grants, welfare recipients and patrons of regional centers for the developmentally disabled......"If this drags out into August and September, we will be in a world of hurt," said Paul McIntosh, executive director of the California State Assn. of Counties.....This is the beginning of the statewide meltdown," said Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky. "People can't go to Ralphs and buy their groceries with an IOU. They can't go to the doctor or catch the bus with an IOU....Everybody's talking about jumping off the cliff," said Sen. Bob Dutton (R-Rancho Cucamonga).
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What's that line in Surviving Y2k (and other lovely disasters) about the S Hitting The Fan "about two weeks after the welfare checks run out"? I know that was about the South, but it probably applies to the South of California too (given this region's history of riots, and the "trial run" mini-riot after the basketball game recently.)

We're leaving Sunday, July 5th, a week from Today (! yay!). That's two weeks and three days after the "welfare checks run out."

Fortunately, the checks (IOUs) go out on the second, the next day is a mail holiday, the next day is Saturday, July 4th. Everyone will probably busy at BBQs, and may not receive their IOUs until Monday. We'll be in Utah by then, on the way to Wyoming.

Also, we live in the far west side of the county, away from where things like that usually start. The "nice part of town", (but not so nice that it's a huge target like Beverley Hills is. I.e. there aren't a lot of people on welfare over here, but there aren't a lot of things people would want to steal the first day they start, like BMWs in driveways, etc.)

Our plan is to never set foot in California again once we're out....We'll get a realtor to hire folks to paint the house and sell it (if that's possible.)

Hope this all works out, and hope we aren't driving through chaos on the way out of town. May give new meaning (the original meaning) to the term "riding shotgun."

MWD

[rhodges]

"People can't go to Ralphs and buy their groceries with an IOU. They can't go to the doctor or catch the bus with an IOU..."

How about paying state taxes with them? 

Or will the state say something like, "Oh, no.  You have to pay us with REAL money"?

If the state accepted those notes for taxes, it might make sense for a business owner to buy those notes at a discount, at least up to the expected tax payment.

[jubal]

   Its time to get the hell out of there. And as the Bible says there is a time for everything and your time has come to make it  out of the coming chaos and inevitable riots in the near future in Calif. Or any other densly populated area. No amount of power or prestige is going to buy out of whats coming. Your doing the only common sense thing that can be done in these tumultuous times.

[MichaelNotMike]

Yup.

Thank you.

MWD