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Offline Eudaimonia

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Establishing Residency
« on: January 19, 2013, 07:10:39 PM »
I am new to this forum.
This is my first post.
As I am unfamiliar with this forum, I apologize in advance if I am posting in the wrong place or if this is one of those annoying questions that you all get constantly.

I live in CT.
Due to the hopelessness of CT politics, my wife and I decided about six months ago to prepare to move to Wyoming.
Since then, it has become obvious that the CT legislature intends to ban as many firearms as they can get away with.

This has forced us to change our intended time table for relocation.

Does anyone here know what the Wyoming statutes are for establishing residency?
Quicker is better than slower.
I would like to transport my firearms to my new residence while it is still legal to possess them.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2013, 07:31:34 PM »
Residency for the state of Wyoming begins upon arrival to the state if the intent is to become a resident, ie voting purposes, etc.  You must be in the state for a full six months to establish residency for concealed permit and a year for hunting purposes.

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2013, 08:07:22 PM »
Residency for the state of Wyoming begins upon arrival to the state if the intent is to become a resident, ie voting purposes, etc. 

I'm sure you're right, the residency start right away but I read somewhere you have to live there 30 days before you can vote. Does that sound right?

You must be in the state for a full six months to establish residency for concealed permit and a year for hunting purposes.

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Offline 300dragonflies

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2013, 11:27:43 PM »
I think that everywhere I've lived, you have to register to vote 30 days before the election in order to vote in it. That's all that the "30 days before you can vote" refers to.

There might still be a few places that allow you to register at the polling place right before voting, but I've never lived in one of them!

So, the day you arrive, or as soon as you have an address...go change your driver's license, register the vehicle(s), and register to vote. You're a resident! :)

Offline FlyingDevildog

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2013, 06:43:41 AM »

There might still be a few places that allow you to register at the polling place right before voting, but I've never lived in one of them!


So you have been to Chicago before. Vote early, vote offend, and vote where ever you can, and just because your dead, does not mean you can not vote ether.

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Offline Eudaimonia

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2013, 06:47:40 AM »
Thank you for your responses.
So, from what I'm reading, I would have to

1) Rent a physical address which can be used on a drivers license.
2) Get a drivers license.
3) Legally move my firearms from CT to WY.

Unless the first 2 items can be done online, this would require a minimum of two trips.

I doubt a PO box and storage facility unit would suffice for a drivers license, but if it could, that would probably be the cheapest solution.

Any other thoughts on ultra-cheap monthly rents which can be used for a drivers license as a temporary address until we make the full move?

Thanks for your responses.
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Offline manfromnevada

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2013, 10:41:15 AM »
The VOTER requirement is separate from the gun ownership requirement. Has NOTHING to do with owning guns.
A driver's license may be obtained on the FIRST day. A rental agreement or lease will suffice. They've added a few things since the National ID Act.
http://www.dot.state.wy.us/wydot/driver_license_records
This tells you what you need.

But also, being a resident of WY for gun purposes also has nothing to do with having a driver's license, although that certainly adds credibility. I believe that simply having the "intent" of making WY your residence is sufficient. But this is a world of documents these days.

You could do this:
1. Find someone who will rent an old "cabin" to you for $50/month. Have them provide a rental agreement.
2. Drive to WY, get your WY DL, and rent a storage locker. Put your valuables in there. One trip.
3. Return to your previous residence to pack and move the rest of your belongings.

Also, WY has NO state income tax. Always an advantage to be a resident here.

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2013, 10:54:01 AM »
From the WY DOT website I referenced above. Due to the national ID Act some things have changed.

Proof of Identity: One of these needs to be presented.
1. Certified copy of a birth certificate. This will include original birth certificates and certified copies.
2. Marriage Certificate/Divorce Decree (when last name used is different from birth name – or to return to using birth name.)
3. Valid unexpired U.S. passport (may be used in lieu of marriage certificate if contains married last name.)
4. Consular report of birth aboard. There are three forms; FS-240, DS-1350 or FS-545.
5. Certificate of citizenship. Form N-560 or N-561
6. Certificate of naturalization. Form N-550 or N-570
7. Permanent resident card. Form I-551
8. Employment authorization document (EAD). Form I-766 or I-688B
9. Valid foreign passport. (When affixed with a United States VISA and accompanied by an approved document documenting the applicant’s most recent admittance to the United States). Form I-94
10. State-issued driver’s license or ID card which complies with the new federal security requirements Wyoming began enforcing on June 1, 2011. (State-issued licenses that have the “gold star” on them.)
Principal residence: The Real ID act requires two documents be presented.
1. Vehicle registration with name & residential address on it (not P.O. box #)
2. Vehicle title with name & residential address on it (not P.O. box #)
3. W-2 form; with name and residential address (not P.O. box #)
4. Pay stub; showing name and residential address (not P.O. box #)
5. SSA-1099; This is a Social Security tax form
6. Form 1099R, INT, DIV, or other tax forms showing name and address
7. Utility bill
8. Rent or lease agreement
9. Property tax assessment
10. Voter registration
11. School records showing the student’s name and a WY address
Proof of Social Security Number: One of these needs to be presented.
1. Ssn card (if recently married or have a change of name, the new name must be on file with SSA)
2. W-2 form
3. Bank statement with ssn number on it
4. Other legal or government document displaying name and ssn.

Here's a useful page:
http://wyoming.gov/relocation.aspx

And here's the lowdown on registering to vote (in order to get a voter ID card which can be used in conjunction with your rental agreement for proof of residency:
http://soswy.state.wy.us/Elections/RegisteringToVote.aspx
To my knowledge, they gave you the card on the spot. So you can then take this card and your rental agreement down the street and get your DL.

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2013, 01:59:04 PM »
You can register to vote on the same day you vote here in Converse county--you do have to have an ID and one other document showing a residence(I think--about the second document).

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2013, 02:01:40 PM »
Thank you for your responses.
So, from what I'm reading, I would have to

1) Rent a physical address which can be used on a drivers license.
2) Get a drivers license.
3) Legally move my firearms from CT to WY.

Unless the first 2 items can be done online, this would require a minimum of two trips.

I doubt a PO box and storage facility unit would suffice for a drivers license, but if it could, that would probably be the cheapest solution.

Any other thoughts on ultra-cheap monthly rents which can be used for a drivers license as a temporary address until we make the full move?

Thanks for your responses.

Maybe 'living' with someone who is already out here--but not really..........................................

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2013, 09:49:19 PM »
I may be reading this all wrong, but I think everyone's over thinking this.

Eudaimonia doesn't need a legal residence or a WY ID, at least not right away. If the law changes in CT it will say it is against the law to have X, Y or Z in CT. It will not say that anyone who lives in CT can't have X, Y or Z anywhere in the world.

Just come out to WY with the items you think will be banned and rent a storage place. Make sure everything is stored in a way to keep it safe from theft and rust.

You can do all the ID's, jobs, apartments and other stuff later.
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Offline manfromnevada

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2013, 09:35:13 AM »
Good advice. This is why Front Sight in NV, offers members to store their weapons there if they should happen to live in the Occupied Territories.

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Offline AtomsInMotion

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2013, 07:40:11 PM »
You do not have to be a resident of a state in order to have a storage unit/locker there.


Offline Eudaimonia

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2013, 09:45:36 AM »
Just spoke with the Wyoming Department of Game and Fish.

According to them I can drive my firearms out, rent a storage facility, store the firearms, and then have 365 days from that point to establish residency.

Thank you all for your help.

Hoping to make the trip out soon.
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Offline manfromnevada

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Re: Establishing Residency
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2013, 10:54:26 AM »
What does Game and Fish have to do with firearms?
Nothing I believe.

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