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Offline Scheherazade

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people with goals
« on: February 24, 2018, 07:30:58 AM »
"What happens when people with goals come against people without goals"

I was watching V for Vendetta (a stinker of a movie by the way) some time ago and I misheard a quote. Due to the actor's accent "guns" sounded like "goals." Now the answer to the question "What happens when people with guns come against people without guns" is obvious. But I think the question I misheard is possibly a little more chilling, especially in the long term. People against freedom have pretty major goals for all of us. Hitler, Mao, and Stalin (to name the three big ones from recent history) have shown those  goals to us. People for freedom don't tend to have big goals. We want to own property, raise our families, do our jobs, cooperate "uncoercidly," and pretty much be left alone to do our thing.

I would love to hear comments or conversation on the question, "What happens when people with goals come against people without goals"
"For if men do these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?" Jesus Christ Luke 23:31

Offline MamaLiberty

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Re: people with goals
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2018, 06:47:43 AM »
The difference is between those who want to control others, and those who do not. The desire/lust to control the lives and property of others is the ROOT of all evil.

I have definite goals. To live, to govern my own life, to cooperate with others voluntarily, to defend myself successfully against those who would harm/control me.  Why aren't those "big goals?"

Those who want to control the lives and property of others must always be met with refusal to participate, and self defense - mutual defense with others - when necessary.
It's not that people are dumber, it's that stupidity used to be more painful.

Offline Scheherazade

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Re: people with goals
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2018, 08:42:53 PM »
Another misquote, profound if you think about it, "You can't yell theater in a crowded fire."
"For if men do these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?" Jesus Christ Luke 23:31

Offline NiteRider

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Re: people with goals
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2018, 08:23:55 PM »
Boston mentioned this theme in one of his books.  Tyrants tend to know what they want and can think concretely.  The liberty camp tends to react and play catch-up.
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