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The 11 Principles of Open Source Peaceful Evolution
Vince:
--- Quote ---I had no hand in the theft of lands before my time, I can only live a moral life of my own since it is the only one rightfully under my control.
I quite agree. That's why I don't worry about it. I just don't live under an illusion that I don't benefit from "receiving stolen goods."
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How very convenient for you.
--- Quote ---Wyoming is a great place to live, but it isn't perfect.
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I don't recall saying that it was.
--- Quote ---No, I've never heard of alternative ways of managing roads - at least until after the government uses its muscle to seize the lands they're built on.
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Well then, I envy the educational road ahead of you; you've a lot of reading to catch up on. Roads have been privately managed quite effectively throughout history but then you will discover that in your own time.
--- Quote ---Well, no, I won't go that far. It isn't hypocrisy. Perhaps it's not thinking through the matter all the way. Or maybe you've thought it through so much farther than I have that you've attained a new state of enlightenment.
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And I have no idea what that means except it's a suspiciously glib tone of voice I haven't used with you. In fact you've been using that tone since you joined this discussion and not just with me.
So you've convinced yourself that your not delusional about all these wonderful benefits. Bully for you Chris. Personally I think you're sounding more and more like a troll and I'm finished with feeding you fuel for your broadsides.
rhodges:
It seems to me that this is turning into a "I'm more libertarian than you!" debate.
I remember that the original Yahoo groups mailing list for FSW specifically mentioned this (no "I'm more libertarian than you") but a search on the current forum comes up empty. Well, at least until this message is posted :)
Can't we stay focused on the real enemy? ("The People's Front of Judea?" Or was it the "Judean People's Front"?)
Even if we don't agree on the long-term wish list, can we at least agree on the short term goals of reducing government and improving our individual freedoms where possible?
Vince:
--- Quote ---Even if we don't agree on the long-term wish list, can we at least agree on the short term goals of reducing government and improving our individual freedoms where possible?
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I'll go along with that. ~W~
SunDog:
Sorry if I riled people up. I wasn't sure what was meant by "troll" so I looked it up:
"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion." - Wikipedia
It wasn't my intent to be inflammatory or off-topic. I started by suggest the "drain the swamp" tactic as one that works against a socialist state. It was MamaLiberty that suggested I was advocating thievery, and I reacted to that.
I accept the statement from rhodges that we agree on the short term goals of reducing government and improving our individual freedoms.
Boston:
Really, that's quite enough of this topic drift and sawdust sawing.
I quote 11 Principles obviously meant as general advice, and they're argued to bits.
Then ensued a battle of personalities.
Just great.
Rich rightfully used this thread as an example of what frustrates him:
http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php?topic=8378.msg71374#msg71374
Rhodges, thanks for your intervening post of wisdom. It's a good place to end this thread.
Now, some folks will have more time to work for freedom.
What I may do is create a new board (stuck in a dank corner) entitled:
"Pointless Arguments Between Strangers, for Those Who Have The Time"
. . . and just start shoveling certain posts/threads into that.
I'm really getting tired of endless philosophical bitch sessions, especially with newbies of
single digit posts.
Boston
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