Can anyone help me get started.

[krusader]

I live in the socialist state of Oregon, and I hate it, also I live near the California border and we are inundated with illegals, simply put we have been colonized.
I am looking at cheap undeveloped land in carbon county but do not really want to go there cause its not what is recommended and the weather is not very good compared to what Boston suggests.
I currently work in a hospital as a clerk and do not make much money, but am willing to do anything.
Any leads on how to get to an area close to those who honor the constitution and love freedom would be greatly appreciated.
I was thinking about just getting a trailer and going, and my wife and I are not as young as we once were.

[MamaLiberty]

This is the way it pretty much works for most of us.

You need to do the "homework" and research the different areas. You have computer access, and there is lots of information available right here at the forum, the original FSW website and so forth. Only you know what you are looking for.

Then you need to come to Wyoming, actually walk the land and talk to the people here. You have to get a feel for where you fit and see if you can find the place, community, etc. that works for you. Nobody can do that for you.

When you have done that, and have specific questions about places and situations... those of us here will usually be pretty glad to see if we can help you find the information you need.

Then, once you make up your mind, it's just a matter of setting your priorities and getting it done. Some of us will help all we can, but we can't do it for you.

[krusader]

Thanks for the reply, I found some raw land in Carbon county but I hear that is not the ideal situation in the winter time and other areas are better. Such as the ones suggested by Boston.
I do not have much money so I was actually going to try to live in a travel trailer and then find work.
I am not a kid anymore but still could do most any job.
Anyway I have researched it but I guess now I just need to save and make the move, if I could have a job lined up that would be better, one question I do have is if anyone knows if there is raw undeveloped land in a more favorable part of the state with milder winters than the Rawlins area?

[wyomiles]

Howdy Krusader, there is raw undeveloped land all over Wyoming. The question is in what price range? My bet is that the land in Carbon county that you are looking at is pretty cheap? Well if so that is because it is remote, sagebrush covered and harsh in the winter. These are not bad things ,mind you, you just have to understand what you are getting into. There are several threads here in the real estate section that you might want to take a look at. In fact there have been some good deals posted lately. I also like to look at a web site called "landwatch" that has a lot of different listings. Just have to search under Wyoming.
There are also some job websites posted here at the FSW forum so take a look there too.

[jubal]

   Raw land means EXACTLY that. No Nuthin there except "raw land". If its where I think this raw land is its not to accessible and quite remote, I've looked at it before. Getting services would be costly. Of course this is a decision only you can make. Your best bet is to come to our get together next month quiz those of us who have made the move already and afterwards tour the area's you have mentioned. That "Landwatch" site sounds like a good one to look at. I'm gonna look too.

[manfromnevada]

Welcome Krusader!

Sometimes the cost to develop "raw" land is not worth the cost.
Putting in a 1/2 mile driveway and then putting rock on it costs money.
Bringing in power costs money.
Getting a truck and plow to plow the road in the winter costs money.
Driving 70 miles to town to get to WalMart costs money.
Building a home in a remote area costs money.

Believe me. Been there. Done that!
(but I wouldn't give it up for the world!)

Sometimes a buyer of property doesn't recognize the time and cost and effort that has gone into "developing" a piece of "raw" land. You might also consider a piece of land where someone has already put a road in, an outbuilding, maybe brought in power, even if all they "have" is a run down trailer on the property.

Just be aware of the hidden costs, that's all I'm saying. Look with eyes wide open. Most importantly, consider whether you can hit water in a well at a reasonable depth. There are some places where water is beyond economic means to drill for. Keep that in mind.

Good luck.

Mac

[krusader]

Thanks Mac,
I am very poor financially, so I can only by raw land and live without power, in a trailer and maybe a cabin with a wood stove. I am really going to be ruffing it. Those are just the cards I have been dealt in life and I accept that, so going with raw land is the only way I will ever own land
I might save up for a conex to make into a home. I wanted something in a better climate but in Carbon county I can get 40 acres for 15,000 of course that does not include the interest.
For my wife and I have the least assetts of anyone I know.
But I am determined to move..

[Crappiewy]

Im pretty sure Carbon County requires Legal Access to property to allow you to build anything besides a barn. Legal acess is a deeded, improved 60' wide road. Of course if you just put a trailer in it is possible that no one would say anything but if you build a house on the property, the property may not be saleable.
That being said I lived in a 160 sq ft cabin with a wood burning stove and an inverter whose batteries I charged every morning while warming up my truck. I brought 55 gallons of water back every day from work. It was liveable but lots of work and no convieniences.

[Jared]

> Those are just the cards I have been dealt in life and I accept that

If you're looking at moving to a new state and starting a new life, you've already proven the above statement is not your default attitude --- you have the power to make your life as you see fit: don't settle for less than your potential based on past experiences.

[kunkmiester]

I'll bet your living expenses in Oregon are a bit higher than out here.  You can probably manage a job doing what you are now or something a bit different, with the higher pay coming from no income tax and such meaning you'll actually earn a bit more.  frugality, and you can live in a town reasonably well.

That would be my suggestion--look up jobs, find something you're comfortable with, and just make the move.  Later, when you're more familiar with the state and a bit better of financially, you can try for something more like what you actually want.

Several hundred for deposit and first month's rent, an employer waiting for you, and a couple hundred for the U-Haul or whatever, and you're in.

[manfromnevada]

Im pretty sure Carbon County requires Legal Access to property to allow you to build anything besides a barn. Legal acess is a deeded, improved 60' wide road. Of course if you just put a trailer in it is possible that no one would say anything but if you build a house on the property, the property may not be saleable.

My understanding is that the STATE requires LEGAL access to all property sold. In other words, it can not be "land locked."
But this is NOT the same as a road. There doesn't have to be a trail even. Just LEGAL access, in other words, an easement.

In the past, some folks sold land without any legal way into it! But nobody, not even the owner, is required to build an actual road.
I have a 66' wide easement across the neighbor's land and they have it across my land. Not a public road. Just a deeded easement. How, or if, we maintain it is up to us. That can, of course, lead to problems by freeloaders. But such is the way freedom works up here.

Mac

[Paul Bonneau]

Try living in a small town first. Two reasons: 1) You might like it, 2) It will allow you to shop around for land and get prepared for life in the sticks (which ain't exactly as easy as falling off a log). I think going direct from another state to roughing it, not knowing what Wyoming can dish out to you during those winters, is not a good idea if you can avoid it. It's no big deal to invest a year in town. You need the business contacts anyway. How is anyone going to get to know you if you are way out there most of the time?

[Crappiewy]

Many people have a hard time relocating from another state to Cheyenne..... Take it in steps and go slow.

[SunDog]

I currently work in a hospital as a clerk and do not make much money, but am willing to do anything.

There is a large VA hospital in Sheridan. I know of one couple renting a multi-bedroom trailer there for about $400 per month. Such a situation would give you a base of operations to look around and make an informed decision about your next move.

[Freedog]

Try living in a small town first. Two reasons: 1) You might like it, 2) It will allow you to shop around for land and get prepared for life in the sticks (which ain't exactly as easy as falling off a log). I think going direct from another state to roughing it, not knowing what Wyoming can dish out to you during those winters, is not a good idea if you can avoid it. It's no big deal to invest a year in town. You need the business contacts anyway. How is anyone going to get to know you if you are way out there most of the time?

That sounds like solid advice, Paul.  I will keep that in mind when I make my move.