Is THIS Wyoming?

[MamaLiberty]

Miles, you're on the right path for sure. If God is for us, who can stand against us?

We were never promised heaven on earth, but we can create something very good if we all practice what we preach. Our example of integrity, friendliness, being good neighbors and working to promote freedom and justice for everyone can't help but make a real difference in the long run.

We do reap what we sow. Do to others what you'd have them do to you - and most of the time you'll come out ahead. The few who can't live with that will suffer the consequences, not us.

One other thing to remember: What you SAY and THINK becomes your reality! If you say and think negative things all the time about yourself and your neighbors, guess what you'll find? All the negative, of course.

This doesn't mean we ignore the problems and become pollyannas! It means we see each problem as a challenge and an opportunity, looking for the silver lining and working hard to bring out the right and good instead. Then those around us will see us as positive workers for truth and justice, instead of complainers and whiners. They are much more apt to accept us as neighbors and friends then. That's always been my experience anyway.

MamaLiberty

[lex]

Hey there Pete,

You're like Ambrose Bearce, the great writer who earned a fine reputation as a straight shooter, taking out the hotair balloons of all manner of puffed-up pols.  He called 'em as he saw 'em. He cut to the quick, and did so quickly.  He was the no-nonsense, common-sensical genious who did not suffer fools lightly, and who was a true friend of those in genuine need.

Yeah, like a rock!  Seeger and the Silver Bullet Band source material, that's you.  Glad you're here!

Lex

[Jason]

Well said, Miles. We do have to fight violent crime, evil, oppression, and tyranny whenever we come across it whether it be the government, real criminals, the "WY Mafia" or Satan himself. Great post!

J

[Hunter]

Here I go AGAIN,

IS IT BLACK & WHITE OR GREY?

I wonder how much flack I'll get on this? Quite a bit I think.

I wonder just how the folks in Crook County who're not FSW would/will feel about FSW folks if FSW fulfills BTP's dream and they become the good ole boy's of Crook County?

Will they think YOUR better than the previous good old boys? Secondly, and more importantly, will you be?
OR will you be the same ole tune with different words? Or will you be just like the old regime and not give a crap because you know what's best for them, even though you've never walked in their shoes.
??
Out with the OLD in with the NEW, EVERYTHING changes but nothin changed.

Worth thikin about eh?
Basically it boils down to an "I'm right & they're wrong" situation and that people, is open to intense discussion by both sides and those in the middle, wherever that middle is.
Nobody is ever 100% right, nor are they ever 100% wrong.
Should FSW ever become the predominent control political group in Crook you will be looked upon as nothing more than SOS. Hilarious thought, eh?

Now,............. that's worth thinkin about!!!!!?

[Boston]

Hunter, your hypothetical comparison just doesn't wash with me.

If FSWers attain political power in any county, it will not
be used for purposes of graft, embezzlement, or nepotism.

That a given, I think the locals would see the difference.
Hardly Same Old Sh*t...

Boston

[MamaLiberty]

If we can truly demonstrate integrity, self-responsibility and all the other roots and fuits of liberty, why does anyone have to be "in charge?"

 Isn't our goal individual liberty and self-government? If our purpose is to "take over" and govern others, I want no part of it.

 I don't want anyone to run my life - not even "Libertarians!"

It would seem we should want to replace the "good old boys" with absolutely nothing but individual liberty for everyone..

Power corrupts - even Libertarians. Think hard about what you plan to build. You'll have to live in it too.

MamaLiberty

[Republicrat]

Nobody is ever 100% right, nor are they ever 100% wrong.

Such relativism is more dangerous than any corrupt politician.

It is by holding to a "right" and "wrong" that we achieve something greater than ourselves and do not simply become another animal. If we are to believe in God, there must be a right and wrong.

Comparing FSW as a dominant political power to a "Good ole boy" network is not the same thing at all. It's not that anyone is arguing that the "Good 'ole boys" are bad for having power, I assert they are bad because of the way they use their power.

That's the point of limiting the size of government, no matter how bad it gets you want to keep it small enough to manage.

As the saying goes, "a government big enough to give you anything you want, can also take away everything you have".

I get what you were saying with your post, in fact, I think I agree with the intent of your post. But the FSW is not aiming to become the next "good 'ole boys". At least, I sure hope not. 

[rhodges]

I wonder just how the folks in Crook County who're not FSW would/will feel about FSW folks if FSW fulfills BTP's dream and they become the good ole boy's of Crook County?

That probably depends on whether we can sing more songs than the theme from Rawhide and "Stand by your main"

Will they think YOUR better than the previous good old boys?

I have not heard all that much about the "old boys" in Crook County, but of the few people that do have an opinion, none have spoken favorably about it.  It seems that most people just want to be left alone, and don't pay much attention to the "machine" unless they get caught in the gears.

Secondly, and more importantly, will you be? OR will you be the same ole tune with different words?

NO.  Of course not.  I have no desire or intention of joining or building a system to control or defraud other people. 

As a very loose analogy, consider a peace officer apprehending a burglar.  Why would anyone assume that the peace officer intends to take the burglar's place?  Is it so difficult to imagine a world where people have moral character and desire justice?

Basically it boils down to an "I'm right & they're wrong" situation and that people, is open to intense discussion by both sides and those in the middle, wherever that middle is.  Nobody is ever 100% right, nor are they ever 100% wrong.

Personally, I think that things are pretty good the way they are right now.  If I were to get involved in politics, my main intention would probably be to preserve the way things are.  Of course there are some wrongs that should be righted, and it would be right and proper to fix those.  But even in clear cases, I would want to move slowly and carefully so that the "fix" does not accidentally cause other problems.  It is better to leave a known devil alone for a while than to create new and unknown ones by wanting to "do something".  Is my outlook an example of your "I'm right & they're wrong" accusation?

As far as I am concerned, someone who commits armed robbery is "100% wrong".  Since you write that NOBODY is EVER 100% wrong, I guess we are just not going to agree on everything.  That's fine, just so long as we agree on most things...

[Hunter]

Nobody is ever 100% right, nor are they ever 100% wrong.

I stand corrected. I used an overly broad a statement. But your analogy of my statement was flawed as my statement was FSW specific which BTW, you admit further down.

Such relativism is more dangerous than any corrupt politician.

Eh  

It is by holding to a "right" and "wrong" that we achieve something greater than ourselves and do not simply become another animal. If we are to believe in God, there must be a right and wrong.

I too profess "Christianity", but others on this forum do not. Is their conceptual "right and wrong" different? Is believing in a God or Christ as your savior or Allah or Buddha a prerequisite to being a good Libertarian? Or is one religion simply better than another Libertarian wise? For example Baptists vs Mornans or Roman Catholics.

Comparing FSW as a dominant political power to a "Good ole boy" network is not the same thing at all.

Oh really?  It is exactly the same thing, which is exactly my point. Your, my, theirs or our idea of "right or wrong" may or may not be another's idea of "right or wrong".

It's not that anyone is arguing that the "Good 'ole boys" are bad for having power, I assert they are bad because of the way they use their power.

The good ole boys by their very nature "assert" power. Good or bad depends upon ones outlook
Again, one mans treasures are another mans junk.

That's the point of limiting the size of government, no matter how bad it gets you want to keep it small enough to manage.

Agreed! No problem with that

As the saying goes, "a government big enough to give you anything you want, can also take away everything you have".

Again, Agreed!

I get what you were saying with your post, in fact, I think I agree with the intent of your post. But the FSW is not aiming to become the next "good 'ole boys". At least, I sure hope not. 

I too "hope not", so again Agreed. But I think my point was taken, eh? I do believe you and I are on the same page of the same book if not the exact same sentence of the paragraph 

Hunter

[PatriotAR15]

I cant stand people who complain about free states like Wyoming ...or any place that has an overwhelmingly pro-gun attitude.
You could be WAY worse. Like me, I live in the People's Republic of Neu Jerzie...

I hate this state...
If you ever want to prove a liberal an idiot, (understand, said liberal must live in a state other than NJ or CA or IL), just tell them "What....you want ALL of America to be like NEW JERSEY?!", that will more often shut them down.

Republicans in NJ, are as "Conservative" as the Socialist-Democratic Party of any country you wish to choose. NJ's Republicans are just as vehemently anti-gun as are the Democrats.
Soon as I get the money I'm waiting for, SO LONG NJ, Hope this state breaks off from America, and drifts in the ocean south of Africa, accross the Indian Ocean, and then joins its true mother China. Needless to say, NJ Residents will hail their Communist "Liberators"!

This is why I HATE The GOP. I have seen how FAKE they really are.
The Democratic Party, on the other hand, is even worse (if thats even possible, but apparently it is). Here in NJ the Democratic Party was actually under FEDERAL INVESTIGATION for criminal corruption.

They had this landmark Eminent Domain struggle, where this farm was going to be taken for "redevelopement". They were going to offer the farm owner way less than the farm was worth. The Farm owner, was obviously angered by this and did not want to give away his farm. So Governer James "I AM A GAY AMERICAN" McGreevy had a talk with the farm owner. He told him, that he would let the farm owner sell the farm for the fair market value, IF he would give a sizeable ammount of that money to the Democratic Party. This was so evil, EVEN the FBI Investigated, and was planning to do something about it.

Fortunately for McGreevy, he came out about his sexual orrientation and announced to the world "I am a Gay American" so he got all the support from the homosexual lobby. McGreevy never had to face any charges for the horrible corruption he was involved in, because then he could throw in the Homosexual Card in and yell "IM BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST!" No, Mr McGreevy, Your in trouble for giving an Israeli Mossad Agent (who you had relations with) a head position in the NJ Anti-Terrorist office(as well as the afformentioned corrupt charges).

NJ is a horrible state..
Whatever state your are in (unless its Komiefornia, IllumiNois, Taxachussettes, or People's Republik of the New Jerzei Polizei State), you shouln't complain. No state is perfect, and most are better than the afformentioned states.

Hopefully, soon enough I will be able to break my bonds of slavery and get enough money to move out of here. Then I will trully be able to be the freeman that Christ sought me to be!

[Sean_Galt]

Interesting reading, guys & gals.
Wherever we go, regardless of where, in the US, still gonna have to deal with IRS, EPA, FAA, FCC, ATF, etc etc etc.
Corrupt politicians, bureaucrats, mean people, psychopaths, addictive personalities.
Good ol' boy network or no, this is life, so when the wife & I move in, we deal with it.
Beats any of the other alternatives we have seen so far.



Oh, yeah, and just thought I'd  at rhodges Blues Brothers reference, so it didn't appear to go unnoticed.

[MamaLiberty]

We must always remember that utopia is NOT an option. Human nature is not going to change in the least. There will always be some people who will not be responsible for themselves, won't live with integrity, and some of those will try to steal and kill others. It is just the way things are and we must be strong to deal with it as it happens.

The idea is to take back our lives from the moochers and the aggressive, to protect ourselves from them the best we can - in mutual cooperation - and to deal honestly with everyone we meet. We can't avoid all trouble, but we can minimize it if we are diligent.

Living in a place with less government nonsense that gives power to those same moochers and aggressors really helps, but we're never going to be able to sit back and get completely comfortable, nice as that would be.

The price of liberty is integrity - and eternal vigilance.

MamaLiberty

[biathlon]

Interesting thread folks. Yeah,, we have some carpet baggers here. Not to worry. I hope all of us FSW folks can round up a very LARGE bucket of tar and a bag of feathers for 'em. I live in Albany county and we have lots of "feriners" from all over the world and the US. Some of them march around downtown waving the biggest blue UN flag I've ever seen along with the usual other Sandalista s@#t. I'm here in the midst of the largest gun grabbing, left wing community in the state and would sure appreciate some help ridding the place of them. b

[MamaLiberty]

Albany county sounds like a very good place to get OUT of. You are not apt to change those who are already there. Why not join us in the more free parts of the state and help us to keep it that way? Don't cast your pearls before swine...

MamaLiberty

[biathlon]

Good advice Mamaliberty. I'm working on it. Ya gonna be at the Jam? b