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Offline manfromnevada

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Re: Septic System Construction
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2011, 08:41:10 PM »
I visited the county folks today at the "growth and development" department.
Right from the horse's mouth (?)

Nothing has changed from before.
We are not a "delegated" county, but this just means that the state DEQ handles the entire application rather than being reviewed by the county.

Once the DEQ approves your plan, you are free to build it.

HOWEVER, Crook County still requires an inspection of the installation after it is constructed, but before it is covered up, simply to confirm that it was built to the approved plan. There is a $200 inspection fee. Same as 4 years ago when I did mine. As long as you do what you said you were going to do there's no recourse for them to make "suggestions."

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Re: Septic System Construction
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2011, 10:44:10 PM »
Thanks for that updated info manfromnevada.

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Re: Septic System Construction
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2011, 11:49:27 PM »
$200 inspection fee.  that would be funny if it wasn't sheer theft.

$200 just to have a bloke come out and say, yup, per plan and put the magic okee dokee on the file...

Oh well, it could be worse.  One more thing to get corrected...
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Re: Septic System Construction
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2011, 08:33:19 AM »
In my house in california, county health used to charge me $350 per year.....
For inspections in which they never came. They of course "audited" it from the office. :(

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Re: Septic System Construction
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2011, 11:08:53 AM »
I just did a septic system in carbon county.  My GF, who has no experience plumbing, filled out the form and sent it to the state.  The "inspector" highlighted the mistakes with a yellow marker and sent it back with instructions how to correct.  GF made the corrections as instructed and returned to DEQ.  No inspector, no address, no problem.  I did it myself with a backhoe and parts.  the whole thing, out the door, was $1300.  THis included tank, all pipe, two loads of gravel and back hoe rental.  Just for comparison, i called a couple of contractors and was quoted 3 to 6 thousand.  This includes the "remote tax" because i live so far out of town.

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Re: Septic System Construction
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2011, 03:21:25 PM »
Indeed. I did all my labor myself. Including the plans and application. Easy.
I did have to pay the Crook County inspection extortion fee though.

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Re: Septic System Construction
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2011, 11:59:39 AM »
I *am* an excavator and have installed septic systems in Platte and Albany counties. Some pointers:

You have to get a permit from the Wyoming DEQ in Cheyenne to get started. Costs $200 and takes 4-8 weeks to approve. If it is just for your home, you can fill out the application and submit it yourself. If it is for any kind of business use, it has to be signed off by a certified engineer (good choice is the county engineer, who is known to the DEQ).

Albany requires an inspection from the county. Used to be Barney, who lived down in Centennial in that big log cabin. Not sure who is doing it now. ALL the trenches need to be open from the house through the leach field, and the leach field must be filled to the top of the pipe/infiltrators (top still exposed). They will come out, take a couple of pictures and check the slopes on the pipes. If you're in a remote area, takes about 2 hours--5 minutes to do the inspection, and 1:55 to catch up on the latest gossip.

Platte does not require an inspection, but I always ask the county engineer come out and take a look to make sure I didn't miss anything. Remember this is Wyoming--people, even county government--tend to be just other ranchers, farmers and laborers and are usually nice folks. I helped with some rezoning of property last year, and the county assessor, Dennis, was wonderful--nice guy and really helped us out. He's retired now, but his sister is now the Mayor of Wheatland (first woman mayor in the town's history).

On the checklist:

#1 CHECK YOUR SOIL TYPE!!! Wyoming has all sorts of different soils. If you've got that hard-packed bentonite clay, by springtime your tank may be sitting on top of the ground, rather than in it! It is hard as concrete when dry, but is actually dense and fluid enough when wet, that it can float a concrete tank right out of the ground. Quite amazing to see. In that case, excavate several feet around it and fill with dense sand, so there is some drainage. (Don't put gravel next to, or under, a concrete tank--always have a few inches of sand for even pressure).

#2 Check your high water table. You don't want your leach field filling up with water and running backwards into the septic tank then into the house. Particularly when it rains hard--Wyoming is known for flash floods, and they can occur under the ground in sandy and rocky soils, where you don't actually SEE them--until your toilet starts dumping on the floor. A deep backhoe cut can reveal what is going on underground.

#3 Keep the septic field at least 100 feet from any well or spring, or you'll contaminate it.

#4 Tank size is determined by the gpd (gallons per day) you are generating, and the tank must retain its contents for 3 days. The rule-of-thumb that the DEQ uses is gpd x 1.5 = tank size. So if you've got 800 gpd, you need a tank size of 1200 gallons.

#5 Use a concrete tank, either 1200 or 1500 gallons. I recommend avoiding the 2000 gallon tanks, as they are just a 1500 gal tank with a spacer. Makes them really tall, so you need a deep hole to set them and they are a pain to set and service. Better off with 2 smaller tanks. Don't use a poly tank--critters (badgers, prairie dogs) will cut through the sides and you'll end up pulling it out and putting in a concrete tank.

#6 Infiltrators / biodiffusers are a better choice than pipe and gravel, in most cases. Just make sure they are set on a firm base--if you have soil that doesn't have any rock, dump some pebbles in first to set the edges on, or in a couple of years you will find that they have sunk a bit and soil has filled them up. And you cannot dig up and fix--it will be dig up and REPLACE, unless you want to do a heck of a lot of manual labor.

Good luck with your installation!
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