Establishing Residency

[RaisedByWolves]

I don't THINK having the I.D. is necessary at all. I only use a passport for identification, which doesn't state where you live, and I am able to buy guns locally and much more. I don't believe anything states that you have to have a D.M.V. published photo I.D. to be a resident.
Even if you have a drivers license, that's just to operate a motor vehicle on public roadways.
Please let me know if I'm wrong. Hopefully you dont really have to carry your proof of existance/ residence around with you :/

However, a while back, my husband did get pulled over by a highway patrol man, that told him he needs to put wyoming tags on his truck. (I guess he saw our truck often enough to assume we must live here)

[manfromnevada]

I don't THINK having the I.D. is necessary at all. I only use a passport for identification, which doesn't state where you live, and I am able to buy guns locally and much more. I don't believe anything states that you have to have a D.M.V. published photo I.D. to be a resident.
Even if you have a drivers license, that's just to operate a motor vehicle on public roadways.
Please let me know if I'm wrong. Hopefully you dont really have to carry your proof of existance/ residence around with you :/

Necessary for what? Getting a storage locker? Of course not. Buying a gun from an FFL? I thought you needed to show residency at an FFL. Don't they "require" that for the 4473? I haven't bought anything from an FFL in nearly a decade so I'm ignorant on this.

Isn't it true that you must be a resident of the state in which you are buying? There's a red/green chart at Walmart showing which states' residents they will sell to. Bordering states are OK in general. Hence the need for ID which is most often considered the DL, although certainly not the only form.

Anyone who's up on the current law will hopefully clarify this. I thought it was settled!

Mac

[RaisedByWolves]

You do have to be a resident of the state where you are buying the gun, but I also do not have to have a DMV issued ID unless I want to operate a motor vehicle on public roads. The best way to prove residency is to show the inquirer your home

How does the formal libertarian feel about identification and having to carry your "papers"?

I would argue my way out of having proof of recidency by having to show a lease. You could easily be staying at an extended stay hotel in which there are no lease agreements. Also if you share a room with a spouse who paid and only has a receipt in their name, you have no written proof of you even being there. Plus, you can't put a hotel as your address.
There's so many holes in the residency requirements, and you can always do like me, and argue with people until they take what form of I.D. you are offering.

To get a storage unit, the most you'll need is an I.D. of any sort, if even that.

BTW, this might not be the law, but it works for me!

[manfromnevada]

Yes, but I was specifically asking about what "the law" is since I'm not sure now that the question was raised.
Mac

[CJ R.]

I believe in most states you don't have to be a resident to purchase a firearm since they are licensed federally and not by the state, I believe the chart at Walmart is company policy but I'm not sure. Now in states with a second background check like we have here in Colorado I don't know how it works since the states bureau of investigation should have a hard time doing its background check on you but I know the Walmart here says they sell to all the surrounding states.  I'm not 100% sure on any of this but I believe that is how it works.

[Cyclonesteve]

However, a while back, my husband did get pulled over by a highway patrol man, that told him he needs to put wyoming tags on his truck. (I guess he saw our truck often enough to assume we must live here)

In most states they "require" you to change your plates if you live there 30 or 60 days. Consistent enforcement is an issue.

[FlyingDevildog]

Not sure about most states, but here in the Peoples Republic Of Illinois, you need to be a resident and have an FOID card, now if your from out of state, they, the gun store, will sell you anything you want, it just has to be shipped back to your state of residents to an FFL there.

Same with me going to WI, or IN, or MO. I can buy anything I want, but they have to ship it back to IL. I can not walk out with it.

Dawg

[Old Guard Dog]

As firearms go-  I am an FFL holder in PA, planning to move west.  In our state, we can sell a long gun to an out of state resident (federal law), but not a handgun(state law). 

Also, if you have a 6 mo. wait for a Concealed Carry permit, be aware that Wyoming gives me reciprocal carry rights with a PA license.  So I suppose I could legally carry as long as it has not expired??

[Novak]

...or you can open carry 100% legally. 

Also, the chances are no one will ever question your carrying as long as you have a Wyoming driver's license.

I, too, kept my PA concealed carry license on me until I got my Wyoming driver's license.  Then I stopped worrying about it, but, to each his own.

[MamaLiberty]

Also, the chances are no one will ever question your carrying as long as you have a Wyoming driver's license.

Not sure what the DL has to do with it. I've only had to show my DL once in nearly 8 years... at the DL office when I went to renew the "license."  Now that card is downright handy, I tell you. LOL

[colonial shooter]

If you are not a Wyoming resident, Constitutional carry does not apply. I have issues with other states not recognizing this also. If they recognize my drivers license in other states, why not the concealed carry that comes with it!!

Also, the chances are no one will ever question your carrying as long as you have a Wyoming driver's license.

Not sure what the DL has to do with it. I've only had to show my DL once in nearly 8 years... at the DL office when I went to renew the "license."  Now that card is downright handy, I tell you. LOL

[Cyclonesteve]

If you are not a Wyoming resident, Constitutional carry does not apply. I have issues with other states not recognizing this also. If they recognize my drivers license in other states, why not the concealed carry that comes with it!!

That's an interesting question. States are supposed to recognize the actions of other states for things like marriage and contracts. I wonder how it would be decided if a Wyoming resident got nicked for carrying?

[MamaLiberty]

That's an interesting question. States are supposed to recognize the actions of other states for things like marriage and contracts. I wonder how it would be decided if a Wyoming resident got nicked for carrying?

Silly person... you KNOW how that would go. Don't forget the sarcasm marks...  These things bear no resemblance to anything rational. Of course, in any rational world, nobody anywhere would question a peaceful person carrying any sort of tool. Or have anything to say about who they associate with, contract with, or how they traveled, etc.

[Novak]

Also, the chances are no one will ever question your carrying as long as you have a Wyoming driver's license.

Not sure what the DL has to do with it. I've only had to show my DL once in nearly 8 years... at the DL office when I went to renew the "license."  Now that card is downright handy, I tell you. LOL

If a cop saw a poorly concealed weapon and he wanted to make sure that the person was carrying "legally," I figure he'd be likely to ask for an ID.  I also figure that he'd probably leave you alone after he saw that you had a Wyoming driver's license.  The cop could push the issue if the card was recently issued, but I doubt it would get that far.

[MamaLiberty]

If a cop saw a poorly concealed weapon and he wanted to make sure that the person was carrying "legally," I figure he'd be likely to ask for an ID.  I also figure that he'd probably leave you alone after he saw that you had a Wyoming driver's license.  The cop could push the issue if the card was recently issued, but I doubt it would get that far.

First, we don't have "cops" here where I live, and the few and far between "officers" of any kind don't stop people at random because they have a bulge in their waistband - or for anything else. They don't walk around on the streets here. In fact, they are seldom seen at all. I think I've seen a handful of traffic stops in the 8 years I've been here. Most on the hwy bypass road. "Speed limit" is too low on that road, but again, you probably have to do something dumb beyond just a few MPH to get any attention.

I carry, mostly openly, and nobody pays any attention. You'd have to do something STUPID, really stupid, to get that kind of attention here. And their first concern would be whatever dangerous, stupid thing you did, not whether you were carrying "legally."  Never was much of a "permit" mindset here for CC anyway.

I know it's different other places. But then, that's why I live HERE.