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Offline Redleg

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Belated Introduction
« on: June 22, 2009, 08:16:38 PM »
I have been lazy and have procrastinated in writing an introduction for quite a while now. As I have watched the unfolding daily events of the "Obamessiah" BHO and his administration with ever greater DISGUST, I recently wrote an e-mail to all of those with whom I regularly correspond by e-mail in an attempt to wake up some of my more complacent friends and acquaintances. I later realized that I could use it as a quick & dirty introduction of some of my beliefs to those of you here on this forum. Especially those of you who have expressed negativity towards those of us unfortunate enough to still be stranded in the People's State of Kalifornia and treat us as if we were lepers. I would think that the very fact that the few of us from Kalifornia who are actually drawn to this website would speak volumes about our character but apparently it does not so here goes.

"America needs to wake up from its complacency and materialism. We are rapidly approaching the point of being legislated & regulated back into a state of servitude and will all soon be serfs of the modern state. America is losing its freedom at an alarming rate. People need to stand up and take back control of their government before it is too late. I for one am tired of EXCESSIVE taxation, legislation, and regulation. We now have so many laws to govern us that everyone is guilty of some breech whether they know it or not. What people have forgotten is that morality and responsibility can not be legislated or regulated into existence, they must be learned. Laws can not make people good and citizens must realize that unless virtue is freely practiced, it isn't really virtue. If the state forces you to be good and obey through coercive measures you are little better than an automaton. Following laws solely because you are afraid of the consequences certainly does not make you a virtuous person. Our founding fathers would be disgusted and dismayed at how far we have strayed from their intent and founding ideals yet the "sheeple" are oblivious to what is happening around them. America, you must shake off your stupor and lethargy and reacquaint yourselves with what once made America great. Study our founding documents and the philosophies that inspired them. Study our founder's personal writings. Internalize those precepts and live by them daily. Unless you do, America will only be a bright spot in the history of mankind that burned brightly for a short but transitory period. Ben Franklin encouraged citizens to keep an open and inquisitive mind and said that "It is the first duty of every citizen to question authority."

People must get away from the left vs. right or liberal vs. conservative dichotomy. That is just a tool used to keep the people fighting amongst themselves rather than focus on the real issue which is servitude & submission to government vs. individual freedom. Ask yourselves the following question. In the last 20 years under Bush, Clinton, Bush, & Obama are we any freer than when we started? The answer is obviously NO! So I ask you then, what has been the difference between any of them really? Some will argue about the differences between Republicans & Democrats but when it actually comes right down to it does that really matter? Regardless of what the platform says, in practice the differences between the two parties are negligible. Our modern two party system has become nothing more than a struggle to maintain political power rather than truly serve the people. The bottom line here is that we have gradually and continually headed further into a state of tyranny and oppression. It is time that we stop squabbling about left & right, Democrat & Republican, Liberal & Conservative, and start questioning authority and our non-representing representatives (per Franklin's instructions). It is time that we asked them what they have done to contribute to the freedom of our country and its people! If they can not answer then they are unfit to hold office!!! If a legislator or politician has contributed nothing to the struggle for freedom during his term of office then he MUST be replaced. That is how they should be judged, not by their political affiliation which has been rendered meaningless in modern politics. When is the last time that you have heard of a lawmaker revoking a law? Almost never! Instead they daily pass ever more laws to limit your freedom and tell you what you can and can't do. How about removing a law for once, or passing one that actually protects the people's freedom rather than strip them of it? Thomas Jefferson said that "When the government fears the people, there is liberty; when the people fear the government, there is tyranny." It is time that our government started fearing us for a change as I for one am tired of the tyranny. For those of you who disagree with me I will close with the following quote:

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams (speech at the Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776)"
 
The one major issues for me that I did not address in my e-mail above is my complete, unbending, unyielding, and non-negotiable belief in the "Right to Keep and Bear Arms" for ALL people, including felons convicted of NON-violent crimes. I believe that we all have the God given right of self-defense which is manifested in the right to own and carry whatever firearm or individual weapon we so choose in any and all settings or locations (from the court house to the White House), from the smallest .22 cal Derringer to the fully automatic belt fed machinegun. I do not believe that any limitations as to the caliber, rate of fire, quantity of weapons or ammo purcahsed nor the imposition of waiting periods, testing, or permitting is constitutional. I know that this may not be the mainstream belief but I also fervently believe that this is the only policy which will ensure our continued freedom and independence from tyranny and opression.

Steven Lynes Sr.
6/22/09
"When the government fears the people, there is liberty; when the people fear the government, there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Belated Introduction
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2009, 08:29:03 PM »
I received the following reply to my e-mail from a friend of mine who is the epitome of a Californian. He is really into mysticism and the belief that nothing is concrete or knowable, ALL things are dependent upon the individuals perception of reality. He wrote back - "I am Free"

To which I replied - "I know that you believe that freedom is only just a perception or state of mind, and there is definitely something to be said for that approach, but I must disagree with you. You may think that you are free but just wait until the full force and weight of the state is brought to bear against you someday for some trivial offense or issue. When that comes to pass tell me again how free you really are. In any society where state coercion is used on a daily basis to force compliance with myriad laws and regulations, laws and regulations that create criminals that are guilty only of perpetrating victimless crimes. Crimes only because some legislator says that they are (mala prohibita) instead of true crimes (mala in se) that all of humankind recognize to be crimes such as murder, theft, and rape. In a society such as that, freedom and justice can not exist!!! I am glad that you feel free,  but some of us out there know better!"
"When the government fears the people, there is liberty; when the people fear the government, there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Belated Introduction
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2009, 08:35:46 PM »
We now have so many laws to govern us that everyone is guilty of some breech whether they know it or not.
Yep.  (Reference Atlas Shrugged quote here.)

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People must get away from the left vs. right or liberal vs. conservative dichotomy. That is just a tool used to keep the people fighting amongst themselves rather than focus on the real issue which is servitude & submission to government vs. individual freedom.
Yep, both parties are exactly the same in my opinion.  EXACTLY.  They just wear different armbands and tell different lies in public.  But when they go home and take off their suits, they just laugh at us for believing their lies.

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The one major issues for me that I did not address in my e-mail above is my complete, unbending, unyielding, and non-negotiable belief in the "Right to Keep and Bear Arms" for ALL people, including felons convicted of NON-violent crimes.
Yep.  Anyone who is not in jail (or prison) and is of adult age should not be denied the right to bear arms.  It follows then that anyone who has been convicted of a crime and CAN NOT be trusted to be armed in free society must not be released.  Put simply, anyone who is a member of free society should be assumed to be armed.  There is no problem with this, as every criminal who can not be trusted with arms is still in prison.

Thanks for your thoughts, and hope to meet you some day in Wyoming!
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Re: Belated Introduction
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2009, 07:54:15 AM »


   "You assisrt an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of evil. A good personwill resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."

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When planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary".
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Re: Belated Introduction
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2009, 09:28:07 AM »
Steven,
I agree with you 100% on the 2A. It's obvious that is doesn't say "except for felons" or "except in school zones" or except in cases of domestic violence" or "except where elected officials think otherwise". I stay completely away from "the slippery slope".

But the same is true with the 1A. It pains me to see someone burn or stomp an American flag, but shall we pass a law against it? No.

I also agree 100% on the two major parties. I think most of us on the forum do. That's why I call them republicrats. They're they same. It's like having a choice between a regular chocolate cake and a German chocolate cake when in fact you find chocolate to be disgusting. Both are bad. They just have a slight variation between the two. Just take a look at the two national government run health plans the two parties are pushing. What we want is NO government health plan.

And don't take comments directed at Kalifornians personally. I know a lot of people that came from KA, like me, my wife, and my best friends. Only difference is that we left that fine place. We voted with our feet. But it is true that the majority of KAs just go along with high taxes, lots of government programs, and severe, very severe, limitations on their Second Amendment rights. Certainly not every Kalifornian is a weasel, but it is easy to make that generalization.

Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Belated Introduction
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2009, 09:30:05 AM »
Hi, Steve,
Nicely put.
My little brother is still in the Sheeple's Depublik of Kalifornia. I've been trying for years to get him to get out. I was born and raised (first 21 years) there. Finally got smart (so to speak) and moved to the midwest - Illinois, of all places. After that, a short stint in Missouri, and on up to Michigan. Frying pan? Fire? Finally, by virtue of returning to college in my later years, I ended up at Univ of Missouri - thus my introduction to Wyoming. Tried to make the move in 2002, went back to Illinois for work, then back to Wyoming in the fall of 2003. Spent the first winter in a small cabin with a wood stove stuck in the fireplace, dipped water out of the river, cooked on a single hotplate, and after freeze-up, sped down the mountain for toilet facilities (or used a custom 1 bucket porta-john. Tough winter! About 5' of snow on the ground most of the winter. Snoeshoe'd in and out with food, laundry, etc. Loved it, but mid-50's was a bit rough.
I did learn that you gotta do what ya gotta do.
I don't hold my brother's place of residence against him, nor do I hold your's against you.
I wish my little brother would do something about his current state, I hope you, too, are working toward that end.
It is the attitutude with which you live life that is more important than where you live.
Granted, it might be easier to live your life in a less restrictive environment.
That said, come on out for a visit and see where life takes you. You never know what doors will open and where that will lead you.
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Re: Belated Introduction
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2009, 02:06:07 PM »
I came to the conclusion quite awhile ago that I HAD to get out of here. I am diligently working on an escape plan but it is much easier said than done after 40 years and all my immediate family being located here. Hopefully in the next couple of years after my wife finishes nurses training and my 2nd oldest of 4 kids graduates from high school.

I just hope I have that much time left before things start to get real ugly around here. Luckily for me I don't live in the big city (by California standards). I am in a town of about 40,000 people on the central Coast between Santa Barbara & Santa Maria called Lompoc. It is fairly secluded being 30 minutes from the main highway and a pretty nice place to live, if only it weren't for all the asinine laws and taxes. It is a farming and ranching agricultural community. I recently spoke with the mayor who feels as I do but said that unfortunately his hands are tied here locally by all of the state laws and regulations which dictate so much of what he can and can't do. That is much of the problem. When you can't even make a difference at the local level then it is time to move on.

I look forward to meeting you all someday, hopefully soon!!!
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Re: Belated Introduction
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2009, 03:41:23 PM »
Lompoc, what a sweet town in the late 60s.
Good luck on you escape from the coast.
When you talk with the Mayor, try to remind him that there is a grave difference between "Legal" and "Lawful".
Everyone needs to stand against the unlawful laws that have been passed and ENFORCED against everyone.
Do what you can and when you can't, cut your losses, find higher ground from which to fight.

Be safe, stay watchful, come out and visit, look around, make plans.

If you need help, ask ...
there are many who will do what they can to help.
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Re: Belated Introduction
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2009, 09:21:57 AM »
slynes69, as one who lived in So. Calif. for 58 years... I can certainly sympathize. I realized, when I got to Wyoming, that I had NEVER had a real home in Calif. - the place of my birth. I never belonged there. Sure wish I had not waited so long to find out, but it's never too late.

Come visit. Then, if that's what is right for you and yours, come "home" to Wyoming. :)
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Re: Belated Introduction
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2009, 06:53:24 PM »
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treat us as if we were lepers

Huh?  ???  Who did that?

It's natural that we should actually get a lot of Californians interested in FSW, since Californians have the boot planted even more firmly in their neck than folks here do. They know how bad things can get. Yeah, most Californians (like most people of any state including Wyoming) are clueless, but that still leaves a large number who understand or who are beginning to understand. In fact FSW may be responsible for a boost in immigration from California.  :)

I just wonder, where are the New Yorkers? It's as bad there. Maybe going to New Hampshire or something?
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Re: Belated Introduction
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2009, 07:06:52 PM »
I just wonder, where are the New Yorkers? It's as bad there.

Maybe they still think they can fix their problems by working through the political process.
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Re: Belated Introduction
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2009, 10:11:14 PM »
I just wonder, where are the New Yorkers? It's as bad there.

Maybe they still think they can fix their problems by working through the political process.


They're escaping to neu joisey!