The 300! The 1st 300 FSW Moving Members

[Paul Bonneau]

I'm unsure how it will work, however, if too many FSWers don't wish to
be officially counted (which seemed the spoiler to any formal The 300! plan).

Just call it "The First 300 Willing to be Counted". 

[blaine]

This is only my tenth post here, i choose to read the posts and add my two cents when something strikes me.  Just a few questions really, What is a movement that does not move forward?  I have read molon labe, it was a great read and a really good idea.  Even in the book some one was at the head of this movement.  Like Boston pointed out, somebody had to take the lead here and move this into the intended direction.  Its about numbers.  If you dont have them then you cant make a reasonable attempt to change the status quo.  Who is at the lead of this movement?  Who has the resources needed to take this on?  Counting or not, you will never get to the point that everyone seems to want without those numbers.  Nobody has said you have to give up your name in a registry, i dont think.  Somebody has come up with the idea for this project.  It is a very worthy cause, unfortunately we cant all live out our lives in secrecy and have this movement succeed.  Like minded individuals need to come together and make this happen.  It is worth the risk.  I see alot of people post, "Give me liberty, or give me death".  Who is it that is among us, actually willing to follow through with those words and do what is neccessary to make it happen.  I am not trying to affend anyone.  We all have our own ideas about this movement, and in essence we all want the same things.  We are just not sure on how to get there.  Boston was also right when he said that it is up to us to do our own advertising.  I have only been here a short time, and i am telling everyone i know about this.  I try to bring up discussions about alot of the things in Molon Labe.  Why we have drivers licenses?  Public schools?  Gun control?  just to name a few.  People need information and a way to receive it.  This forum serves that purpose.  I have learned quite a bit about this subject and find myself wanting more information.  When it comes right down to it, people are suckers for the truth if they hear it.  Maybe a post can be started to examine ways to go about achieveing these next steps.  Maybe i have missed it and it has already been done.  Not sure on that one.  Like I said just my two cents, maybe i am way off.  I dont think so but anything is possible.  Good luck Rich, I liked the idea, provided you arent requiring someone to give up their privacy to get their coin.

[Rich]

Thank-you for your post Blaine.

I think of the forum in this way:

It to me is akin to a FSW booth at say a county fair, or pick your venue...

A place where we can meet and talk to folks about us and about the FSW.

The public side of things should IMO, be welcoming and informative to folks.

No matter who hires them or how they are paid we still need people to fix roads, plow snow,
record deeds and titles, adjudicate disputes, and even arrest and detain people with evil deed or intent.
There's a huge list that no matter HOW it's done or paid or authorized, still has to be DONE.

We have private areas on the forum ( Accessible by all FSW Members (Founding, and since 21 Oct 2007) and Associates) that anyone with little effort any can access, where if we feel the need to...
we can metaphorically snatch each other bald over HOW we get it done in the future...

But right now we have what we have, and that pothole still needs to be filled...

And arguing with the pothole filler who stops by the booth, and telling him or her that they are
immoral thieves for filling the pothole on a govt dime does nothing to bring them on board to actually
help change the status quo!

And another thing... while I'm on this rant... Our booth sign out front (Website)looks old, faded cracked
and abandoned and it is.

Why don't one of you gee-wizz bang computer geeks take a break from posting thesis after thesis
in advanced graduate level studies on why our pot hole filler is an immoral bottom feeding thief...

And design us a coolass website to welcome our new folks to the forum!!!

Don't ask, JUST DO IT and show it to Boston when it's done!

Need an Idea? Go here and check out the opening page:

http://www.dirttime.com/

and come up with a cool opening line that scrolls out Like....WYOMING...Your Freedom Starts Here

And under the forum link Put: 69,278 Posts in 7,648 Topics by 1,642 Members. With over
Three and one half MILLION!  3501166
page views as of Oct 14 2009

bet one of you wizards could come up a way to realtime those #s too

Or at least Update it once a month with the current forum #s to let people know
it's active

Then work on the actual website later....

Meanwhile I have to go work on OUR Range and Camp Ground to get ready for
250 New prospects we can pitch our concept to next spring....

As well as getting our pin made

Jeesh... Do something people!

Rich

[Big Ugly]

Evening, Rich,
Thank You!
I've been trying to figure out how to say what you just did.
Well put, Sir!

I was under the impression that FSW was about like-minded people moving here to get involved in the political arena to affect change from with in, not each to be our own little island of anarchy in a sea of The Powers That Be.
Yes, it's going to shit! In a hurry. Yes, I think that we will be in Civil War in short order. Do I hope that there is some way around that .... Yes, I do. Are some cops the kind of trash we are trying to get rid of ..... Yes, but not all are cops just to force other's to their will - case in point - the Weston Co boys. A couple of the local cops and sheriff's deputies are great guys and I've told them that if they ever need my help, they have it to what ever limit is required. You don't like 'bad' police? Don't treat the decent ones badly. A lot of them are 'on our side' and don't like, or are afraid, of the 'bad cops', just like we are.
Like Rich said, there is, and always will, be a need for those in authoritative, or enforcement, positions. History has proven this time and again.  The trick is to keep the good ones and get rid of the bad ones.

One final thing!
Please!
Will someone do something about the FSW website?
I thought that FSW was inactive for a long time before I found the forum.

O.K. Bye!

[dr1best]

Well here's two cents worth... Much as I hate his politics, I feel like...Thank God for Obama.  Sometimes it take a statist of his magnitude to wake people up. Our liberty is on the line here folks, it's time to get busy.
I'm a newbie here, but I'm not a newbie to the Liberty movement. Liberty, that's what it's all about isn't it.
We have an opportunity to do something historic here, right now, and are we going to let this time pass?
Like I said on my first post, 300, 3000, 30000, what we need is critical mass. What does it take to achieve that? What that is, that is what we have to do IF this is going to do ANYTHING. Ads?, better looking website?, what ever it takes?
Folks, we have one hell of allot of potential here, lets do something historic with it.

[Boston]

from Big Ugly:

I was under the impression that FSW was about like-minded people moving here to get involved in the political arena to affect change from with in, not each to be our own little island of anarchy in a sea of The Powers That Be.

Your impression is generally correct, but please do remember that it is up
to individual FSWers to get into politics as they see fit.  The rest
may choose stay out, but at least they can help with good votes.
Even they stay out of the ballot box, they are good neighbors and friends.

Will someone do something about the FSW website?
I thought that FSW was inactive for a long time before I found the forum.

Well, I don't know what "something" means.
If you have news or "Why I Moved To Wyoming" stories to contribute, please do so.
We've a few threads about that.  LadyLiberty only needs new content to add.
Meanwhile, the site does clearly point folks to this forum.

Boston

[Herk]

I had no idea there where so many FSW relocators in WY!  I thought too that it was only a few.  Not that that dissuaded me from wanting to move...

[MichaelNotMike]

I'm unsure how it will work, however, if too many FSWers don't wish to
be officially counted (which seemed the spoiler to any formal The 300! plan).

Just call it "The First 300 Willing to be Counted". 

DJ and I are willing to be counted. Even though we didn't think we would be, since we're of the "we don't need no stinkin' pledges" variety.

We're honored to be counted. Count away. It's a census I won't slam the door on.

And if you're counting beasts, we have three. As I'm sure you all know by now. ;-)

MWD

[FlyingDevildog]

So.....

What was the out come of this?

Did we make 300?
Did we make 1000?

[MamaLiberty]

So.....

What was the out come of this?

Did we make 300?
Did we make 1000?

No idea... far as I know, nobody was actually counting. And since so many never participated in the forum, I don't know how they could be.

[Vince]

Given that the FSW was to entice freedom lovers to move to Wyoming and change the election outcomes to something more favorable to freedom and traditional values the question would seem to be, has Wyoming in general, or at least some few counties in Wyoming, seen a move that reflects the idea of a free state?

[Cyclonesteve]

I don't live in Wyoming, but from reading posts the last couple years I think the answer is no. 

[Cyclonesteve]

I was thinking about this issue today, and why I haven't moved to Wyoming. There are lots of reasons, the number one is money, of course, but the other is that there is no there, there. To me, this forum is like a land filled with mountain lions. Mountain lions are tough and dangerous but I don't want to be a mountain lion. To kill a mountain lion all you need is a pack of dogs and a shotgun. I don't want to spend the rest of my life on a task doomed to failure from the start, so I'm being careful and moving slow.

A dog is not as tough or dangerous as a mountain lion on it's own. It's also not as free. It's part of a pack and works with the pack to accomplish the pack's goals. I know that rubs a lot of people on this site wrong & I get that. It's just that to get what you want usually requires a payment. There is usually a cost. In this case, to accomplish something would require people to set aside their instinct to say no, I'm going my own way, but instead pick an organizer (or group) and follow their lead until you accomplish your goals. (or they get so far from you there is no choice but to cut your ties with them)

Boston has made it clear that this group is not in the leading business. It's just a place to meet and talk.

Not a lot of people are going to leave their home and family, risk wasting years of their life for a good chat. IMHO

[Don Wills]

I don't live in Wyoming, but from reading posts the last couple years I think the answer is no. 

I concur with Steve's assessment.  With the exception of a license-free concealed carry law being enacted a couple of years ago, the freedom/liberty/whatever-you-call-it index for Wyoming residents has gotten slowly worse since I moved here in 2005.  I didn't move because of FSW, I moved because I wanted to hike the mountains and valleys of the northwest corner of Wyoming.  I rented a house north of Jackson and did just that for five years.  I bumped into this forum shortly after I'd moved here.  And now I live in the southeast corner of Wyoming out in the boonies.  Go figure.

My 2 cents is that the whole concept of the Free State Project is a failure, notwithstanding the thousands who have actually moved to NH.  It was a good idea, but it's now time for plan B.

[FlyingDevildog]

but it's now time for plan B.

So what is your idea for plan "B"?

I just got here, I now live in the central part of the state.
I moved here with a job in place. other than there not being as many stores as where I can from, I am liking it here.
I understand that each of us has to decide what is best for us.

for me it was having a job in place, ready to go to.
I know I did not make the 7 year plan, but I did make it here.

so again, what would be your plan "B"

or has everyone just giving up on Wyoming? nice place, but lets just talk about it and do nothing.

one of the things I did enjoy about the FSW was the Jams. the meeting people, doing things with them.
the friends that were made.

So, my plan "B" would be maybe a mini Jam, maybe 2 or 3 of them at different times of the year, at different location in the state. nothing fancy, just good folks getting together for some good times with each other.

oh just for the record, it was an FSW member that helped me move in to my house, and no one else, no church, or neighbor.

Thank you Marc.